Elizabeth Paston

Other Events and Attributes:

• Will: 1 Jul 1542

Notes:

Her will, 1 July, 33 Hen. VIII (1542). Called Elizabeth Savile of Tankersley, widow. To be buried in the Lady quire in Thornhill church.

To Edward and Dorithie, children of my son Henry Savile, each a spoon.
To my daughter, Lady Anne Thwaites, my daughter, Lady Elizabeth Conyers, each a goblet.
To Margaret Wortley a goblet.
To Chris­topher Conyers, son of Sir Christopher Conyers, knt., 2 silver salts.
To William and Isabell Thwaites, children of the aforesaid Anne, to Michaell and Frances Sotehill, children of the aforesaid Elizabeth Conyers, each a spoon.
To Elizabeth Lacie, wife of Richard Lacie, a spoon and a pair of beads.
To Katherine Thwaites, daughter of Lady Anne, a pair of coral beads.
To Richard Lacie and Henrie Thwaites, sons of the Lady Anne, each a spoon. All other goods to Isabell Thwaites and Frances Sotehill equally.

The Lord Talbote, Earl of Shrewsbury, and Henry Savile, knt., super­visors.

Proved 12 Jan., 1541-2, by Lady Elizabeth Conyers, Lady Anne Thwaites, the other executrix, renouncing (Reg. Test., xi, 591).

Elizabeth married Sir John Savile, (VIII) Knight in ~ 1501. John (son of John Savile, (VII) and Jane Herrington) was born in ~ 1478 in Thornhill, Dewsbury, West Riding, Yorkshire, England; died on 7 Jan 1504. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Will: 15 Feb 1555

Notes:

IX. SIR HENRY SAVILE, Knt., of Thornhill, etc., and of Sothill, ju. ux.; High Sheriff of Yorkshire I537-41; a very important man in the reign of Henry VIII, to whom he steadfastly adhered at the time of the Pilgrimage of Grace; a great supporter of Robert Holdsworth, Vicar of Halifax, and an enemy of Sir Richard Tempest, Knt., of Bolling.1 He died 25 April, 1558 (Dewsbury Reg.), but probably bur. Thornhill.

Will. - Feb. 15, 1555. Henrye Savyle, of Thornehill, knyghte. I wyll that my bodye be buryed at Thornehill if I die wythein the countie of Yorke, the same buryall and funralles expenses there of to be done by the dystression of my executrix. I wyll that Dorythe Savyle, my dowghter, shall have all my manors, landes, tenementes and heridamentes in the countie of Yorke or ells where wythein the realme of Englande, and shall tayke all the yssues of all the manors, &c., unto the end of fyve yeres next, and that she shall pay all my lawfull debtes and performe all my gyftes, &c., in my will. Also I gyve to Elizabethe my wyffe all my corne in Dewsburye and Emlay peryshes, also all maner of my goodes there, my playtt onelye except, which playtte wythe all my goodes wythein the peryshes of Thornhill and Tankersley I gyve to Edwarde Savyle, my sonne, my corne at Thornhill bothe grovynge and in the laythe excepted. Also I gyve to John Byrkes all money as he nowe owethe me, except suche money as he owethe me for corne. And I wyll that my sayde exectrixe shall appoynt Henrye Bayt to keipe the courtes wythein all my lorde shippes and manors, and yf he dye, wyche God defende, then Henrye Gryce to enyoye the same offyce. I gyve unto the sayde Henrye Batte one yerelye annuyte of fortye shillinges to be payde to hime durynge his lyfe. I gyve Henrye Gryce one yerelye annuyte of fortye shillinges. I gyve unto Henrye Payge all somes of money as he dyd owe me at the fourte day of Aprill last past. I wyll that my executrix shall pay unto George Savyle one hundrethe markes in fyve yeres. I gyve the profyttes of all the landes belongynge to yonge Claton to my cosyn Thomas Savyll of Kyrkbye, he honestlie kepinge the sayde Rycherde in lerneynge. I gyve to the sayde Rycherde his maryage so that he do not marye but by the consent of John Birkes, John Claton of Dewly (? Denby) grannge, and Robert Wheatley, or two of them. Also I dyscharge all wardes dew to me at this day of there

1 He had an illegitimate son whom he allowed to bear the name of Savile, whose mother was Margaret Barkston, one of the waiting maids of Lady Savile. In this son was centred the talent of the family, and it was a great object to release out of entail as much as possible of his estate, that he might establish a family in the posterity of this son called Robert (Hunter’s Lupset). See the Saviles of Howley.

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maryages. I wyll that all my landes whiche I have commytted in maryage in the indentors of Henry Savyll of Lup­sett, my wyll fulfylled, yf anye thinge chance to Edwarde Savyll, my son, wythe oute yssew mayle to remayne treulye accordynge to the same commyttes, and also all landes as I have couynanted in maryage in the indentors of couynantes of Robert Savill shall remayne to the true intent of the same couinanttes. Also I gyve unto my dowgter Dorythe my leasses of Waythe and Bolton frome the terme of Ester next to the end of thos yeres that I nowe have in the same so that she suffer my son Thomas Wentworthe and his uncle Thomas Wentworthe durynge the same terme to haue that that they do occupye at this present day paynges lyke rentes for the same as they do to me. And I wyll my dettes and bequestes be truly payd wythe reasonable charges for execution of my wyll. And all the rest of the revynes to be resayved durynge the sayde fyve yeres I gyve to Dorythe Savyle, my dowgter, for the avauncement of hir maryage. Also I gyve Geffray Barmeby and Fraunces his Wyffe all my leas and terme I haue of the Lady Brandon durynge there lyves, and yf they dye durynge the sayd yeares I gyve the rest of the sayde terme to the heyres malle of there two bodyes lawfullye be­gotten. I do mayke the abouesayde Dorythe, my dowghter, my hole executrix. Thes beynge wytnes, Alverye Coppelay, esquyer, Thomas Cockson, preist, Henrye Batte. I mayke the supervisors of my wyll Sir Thomas Gargrave, Sir John Nevyle, and Sir Wyllm Caluerlay, knyghtes, and every one of them to have twentye nobylls for there paynes. No probate annexed (Reg. Test., xv, ii, 387).

Inq. p. m. - 25 Aug., 5 and 6 Phil. and Mary (1558). This Inquisition is very imperfect, but a little information can be extracted. It was taken at Pontefract before Thos. Gargrave, ..... Nevile, Knt., Francys Frobisher, Wm. Hawmond. The Jury say he was seised with his wife Elizabeth in her right in the manors of Soythyll, Rowtonstall, Laxton, Hadlesay, Daryngton and Emley, and of 10 watermills, 1 windmill, ..... acres of pasture, 80 of wood, 4,000 of heath and furze, ¹20 rent in the above and in Chydsell, Myrfeld, Stansfeld, Dewsbury and Ovenden, and the advowson of the parish church of Emley, with remainder to Edward Sayvell, their son and heir, and in default of his issue to Elizabeth and her heirs.

Sir Henry before his death, in consideration of a marriage between Henry Sayvell of Lupset, Esq., his kinsman, and Margaret Fuller, one of the daughters and heiresses of Thos. Fuller, late of Islington, Esq., granted an estate in Hunsworth to the said Henry, Knt., and heirs, and in default of issue to the same Henry Sayvell, Esq., and heirs, in default to Robert Sayvell and heirs, remainder to Sir Henry Sayvell. By the same deed he would make sufficient estate. In consideration of a marriage between Robert Sayvell and Anne Thymbleby, widow, he granted to Humfrey Browne, Knt., and Francis Ascough, Knt., he would have an estate made in the manors of Elland, etc., to the use of Sir Henry, Knt., remainders to Robert Sayvell, the heirs of Thomas Sayvell, late of Lupsett. In consideration of a marriage between Edward Sayvell, his

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son and heir, and Mary, one of the daughters and heiresses of Richard Leigh, Knt., he granted to said Edward and Mary and their heirs the manors of Tankersley and Southourome, the park of Southourome called Eland Park, and ..... of Myrfeld, Thurleston, and Estryngton, with all his lands in the said places by deed 3 Feb., 2 and 3 Phil. and Mary (1555-6), by virtue whereof they are still possessed.

He died 23 April last. These manors are held of the King and Queen as of their lordship of Wakefield, now parcel of the Duchy of Lancaster - Wadsworth and Stansfeld by rent of 2s. yearly, worth ¹30. Ovenden by rent 5s., worth ¹26 10s. Skircote and Halifax, rent 2s., worth ¹13 6s. 8d. Shelf by rent 2s., worth ¹8. Rysheworth, Shakelton, Heptonstall and Northland, Northowrome, Hunshelfe by rent 2s., worth ¹22. Brygehouse in free socage by fealty only, worth 8s. beyond a rent of ¹5 6s. 8d. (to the chantry priest of Thornhill). The manors of Eland, Southowram and Gretland, and messuages there, are held of the King and Queen of their honor of Pontefract, parcel of the Duchy of Lancaster, for the third part of a knight's fee and rent of 6s., worth ¹56. The manor of Myrfeld for 20th part of a knight's fee, worth ¹5. The manor of Thornhill by 4th part of a knight's fee and rent of 16s. 8d., worth ¹80. The manors of Gylcerr and Bothomley, worth ..... Haddlesey, worth ¹3. Darton manor, worth ¹13. Thurleston, worth ¹4. The manor of Wyke held of the King and Queen of their manor of Bradford, parcel of the Duchy of Lancaster, and that an annual rent of ¹5 6s. 8d. was paid yearly, having been granted by the ancestors of said Henry to a chantry priest in Elland church, worth ¹5 6s. 8d. The manor of Estrington is held of the Bp. of Durham, worth ¹29. Hunsworth is held of Henry and Ellen Tempest of their manor of Tonge, worth ¹80. Laxton held of the Bp. of Durham, worth (?) ¹33. Hanging heaton, Chydsell of the manor of Wakefield, worth ¹5. Stainland, Barkisland, and Over Lyndley, worth ¹6.1

Mar. Elizabeth, daughter and coheiress of Thomas Sothill, of Soothill; remar. Thomas Gascoigne, of Barnbow, Esq. They had issue -

Edward Savile,2 of weak intellect, aged 20 years 20 weeks and 12 days at his father's death; bapt. Dewsbury, 16 Feb., 1538-9; bur. 16 Feb., 1603-4, Thornhill; mar. 1st, Mary, daughter and heiress of Sir Richard Leigh, Knt., of St. Albans, before his father's death in 1555; she was divorced; mar. 2ly, Elizabeth, daughter of Geoffrey Barnby (Whitaker).
1 Mr. Whitaker has printed a list of the estates in Loidis and Elmete, p. 312, not quite corresponding with the above. He makes the total ¹489 14s., consisting of 300 messuages, 300 tofts, 10 water mills, and 22,080 acres, not including the extensive wastes and commons perhaps amounting to as much more.
2 He lived in obscurity, and it is said he was under the influence of the Earl of Shrewsbury. A settlement of the es­tates was made 28 Sept., 1559, which transferred them at Edward's death to the Lupset Saviles.

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Henry married Margaret Barkston in ~ 1519. Margaret was born in ~ 1503 in Thornhill, Dewsbury, West Riding, Yorkshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Occupation: Sheriff of Lincolnshire
• Residence: Lincolnshire, England

Robert married Anne Hussey on 1 Mar 1555 in Howley, Yorkshire, England. Anne (daughter of Sir Robert Hussey and Anne Saye) was born in ~ 1520 in Linwood, Blankney, Lincoln, England; died on 1 Dec 1562. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Occupation: High Sheriff of Lincolnshire
• Occupation: Member of Parliament
• Residence: Pontefract, Yorkshire, England
• Alt Birth: 1556, Howley, Yorkshire, England
• Alt Birth: ~ 1561, Howley, Yorkshire, England
• Occupation: 1626; Privy Counsellor

Notes:

ConstituencyDates
SAVILE, Sir John (1555/6-1630), of Howley Hall, Batley, Yorkshire

LINCOLN
1586
POOLE
[1586]
YORKSHIRE
1597
YORKSHIRE
1604
YORKSHIRE
1614
YORKSHIRE
1624
YORKSHIRE
1626

Family and Education

b. 1555/6, 1st s. of Sir Robert Savile of Howley and Barkston, Lincs. and 1st w. Anne, da. of Sir Robert Hussey of Blankney, Lincs.1 educ. Trin. Camb. 1572; L. Inn 1576/7.2 m. (1) Catherine, da. of Charles, Lord Willoughby of Parham, s.p.; (2) 20 Nov. 1586, Elizabeth, da. of Sir Edward Carey† of Aldenham, Herts., 5s. (2 d.v.p.), 4da.3 suc. fa. 1585/6;4 kntd. 1595/6;5 cr. Bar. Savile of Pontefract 21 July 1628.6 d. 30/31 Aug. 1630.7 sig. John Savile.

Offices Held
Capt. militia ft. Lincs. (Lindsey) to 1587;8 steward (jt.), honour of Wakefield, Yorks. 1588-1618, honour of Pontefract, Yorks. by 1626-8;9 sheriff, Lincs. 1590-1;10 j.p. Lincs. (Lindsey), by 1591-1616, Yorks. (W. Riding) by 1591-1616, 1625-d., custos rot. W. Riding c.1594-1616, 1626-d.;11 commr. musters, W. Riding by 1595-9, member, High Comission, York prov. 1599;12 gov. Wakefield g.s., Yorks. by 1598;13 commr. oyer and terminer, Northern circ. 1602-d., Mdx. 1628-d.;14 member, Council in the North 1603-d., v.-pres. 1626-8;15 commr. Admlty. causes, Yorks. 1608, subsidy W. Riding 1608, 1621-2, 1624, 1629, aid 1609, to compound with duchy of Lancaster copyholders, Yorks. 1607-9, 1611, sewers, W. Riding 1611, Forced Loan, Leics. and Yorks. 1626-8;16 alderman (i.e. mayor), Leeds, Yorks. 1626-7; commr. compound for feudal tenures, Northern parts 1626, drainage, Hatfield Levels, Yorks. 1626;17 recvr., recusancy composition, Northern parts 1627-9.18

Commr. Union 1604-6;19 PC 1626-d;20 commr., navy abuses 1626, Crown revenues, 1626-7, fees 1627-d.;21 comptroller, king’s Household 1627-d.22

Biography
‘The old devil of Howley’ is chiefly known to posterity through the correspondence of his enemies, particularly Sir Thomas Wentworth*, his junior by a generation. Savile’s cunning made him a dangerous enemy, especially for those who threatened his power base in the West Riding. This trait first manifested itself at the Yorkshire election of 1597, and was exhibited upon a larger stage during the 1624 Parliament, when Savile was one of the most skilful opponents of a precipitate declaration of war against Spain. However, despite the ample connections offered by his wife’s family and the 6th earl of Shrewsbury, he failed to cultivate Court patronage under James, a neglect which cost him the custos-ship of the West Riding in 1615/16 and began the feud with Wentworth which dominated the rest of his life. From 1626 he secured a place upon the national stage, becoming Charles’s key enforcer in Yorkshire and successfully manipulating local rivalries to frustrate Wentworth’s efforts to undermine the collection of the Forced Loan. The scale of Savile’s achievements has often been underestimated by historians, partly because his papers do not survive in any great quantity, but chiefly because Wentworth, having superseded him in the king’s affections, adopted many of his policy initiatives without ever acknowledging the debt he owed his rival.

I. Savile’s Power Base
Savile’s father, an illegitimate relation of the Saviles of Thornhill, Yorkshire, inherited Howley Hall in Yorkshire, but his chief estates lay in northern Lincolnshire. It was here that Sir John cut his political teeth with the assistance of his half-brother Stephen Thymbleby†, recorder of Lincoln, who secured him a place at Lincoln’s Inn in 1576 and a parliamentary seat at Lincoln a decade later. Thymbleby’s death in 1587 extinguished this influence, and while Savile served as sheriff of Lincolnshire in 1590-1, shortly thereafter he began shifting his interests to Yorkshire. There he amassed an estate of 5,000 acres west of Leeds and an iron forge at Kirkstall, the total yield of which was conservatively estimated at ¹2,200 a year at his death.23 This income, while substantial, was considerably outclassed by that of local rivals such as the Cliffords, Wentworths, Saviles of Thornhill and Fairfaxes of Denton. Consequently, Savile’s challenge to the political influence of these four West Riding families during the 1620s was necessarily based on far more than mere acreage.

Savile’s chief political asset was the honour of Wakefield, Yorkshire, comprising much of the Aire and Calder valleys, where he served as steward jointly with his father-in-law Sir Edward Carey† from 1588 until 1618, when he was succeeded by his son Sir Thomas*. Throughout this period the family built a following among the Crown’s tenants by granting copyhold leases of intakes from common land at reasonable fines and token rents.24 Savile also promoted the Wakefield tenants’ interests by other means: at the end of Elizabeth’s reign the villagers of Holmfirth hired him as their lobbyist in a lawsuit over tithes, allegedly raising a fighting fund of ¹500 to ensure that he kept their opponent in check for several years. In 1608 he vehemently opposed a project to overthrow the duchy of Lancaster’s control of the honour, which would have laid the tenants open to concealment proceedings, but at the same time he served on the duchy commission to confirm Wakefield copyholds, which promised to yield the Crown ¹6,000 in composition fines. This settlement was regarded as a mixed blessing by the tenants, who circulated libels against him, but confirmation of their favourable position was to their long-term advantage. Moreover, in the spring of 1610, although absent from the Commons, Savile was doubtless one of the sponsors of the bill which aimed to confirm this composition.25

Although Savile’s influence centred upon the honour of Wakefield, by the time of the 1620 general election he had acquired a wider reputation as ‘the patron of the clothiers’, particularly in Parliament. In the first instance, he promoted legislation for the benefit of the cloth industry. Though not an MP in 1601, he was consulted about modifications to the Tentering Act of 1597, and nine years later he was first named to the bill to alter existing legislation concerning the length and weight of kersies (5 Feb. 1606). When a broader measure for regulation of the cloth trade was tabled in the following year, Savile intervened to ensure that the Londoner Richard Gore, who spoke against the bill, was not added to the committee (27 Mar. 1607).26 Common informers laying actions for breaches of wool and cloth legislation were particularly active in the West Riding at the end of Elizabeth’s reign, and on 25 May 1604 Savile tabled a bill to regulate their activities, which was committed but failed to progress any further.27 On 11 Feb. 1606, as part of an initiative co-ordinated with other northern MPs, he called for confirmation of a discount of 20 per cent on customs duty for northern cloth. A bill was read two days later, reported by the York MP Christopher Brooke and followed in the Lords by the Hull MP Anthony Cole.28

The cloth trade aside, Savile supported a number of initiatives designed to benefit the West Riding and bolster his authority in the area. The Pennine towns depended upon Lincolnshire and the Vale of York for much of their supply of corn, and in the Commons’ debate of 12 Apr. 1624 on restrictions to the export of grain, Savile argued that prices should not be forced so low as to destroy trade: ‘we must take care that the farmer and husbandman be encouraged, for then the poor will not want’.29 Poor communications were a major hindrance to the development of the area, and from 1624 the Saviles backed an ambitious scheme to make the Aire and Calder navigable, to be paid for by a duty on goods shipped through the new locks to be constructed on the rivers. A bill to this effect received two readings in the Commons in 1626, but was thrown out following protests from the York corporation, which favoured a rival scheme for the River Ouse; plans to revive it in 1628 were frustrated by the Saviles’ electoral defeats.30 By contrast, the bill to incorporate the Sheffield cutlers, which Savile tabled on 25 Mar. 1624, was reported by Christopher Brooke on 12 Apr. and reached the statute book at the end of the session.31 Finally, in both 1614 and 1624, Savile unsuccessfully called for the Council in the North to be included within the provisions of the certiorari bill, a motion which would have substantially diminished the jurisdiction of the York court, largely to the advantage of quarter sessions. Although a member of the Council from 1603, Savile’s power base lay not at York, but within the Aire and Calder valleys, hence his complaint that ‘in the north some travelled 30 mile on these writs’, roughly the distance from Howley Hall to York.32

While Savile offered assistance to a broad cross-section of his neighbours, he was particularly careful to promote the interests of his most stalwart supporters, the large-scale clothiers who dominated the economic and political fortunes of the West Riding, and who played a key role in mobilizing his vote at general elections. Most of these men were Merchant Adventurers, a factor which doubtless sharpened Savile’s opposition to the Cockayne project in 1614. A decade later, when the Company’s newly restored monopoly of cloth exports came under attack in Parliament, Savile sprang to its defence, warning that ‘if we labour too much to prune this Company we may destroy them, and so bring a great mischief to the kingdom’.33 In the same session, he probably played a delaying role on committees for bills against export of wool (6 Mar. 1624) and for confirmation of the Staplers’ Company patent (24 Mar. 1624), both of were used as leverage to persuade the Merchant Adventurers to co-opt the Staplers into their Company.34 His efforts on behalf of the clothier clique culminated in the incorporation of Leeds in 1626, the charter of which appointed him alderman (i.e. mayor) and nominated a corporation dominated by his allies.35

The final way in which Savile consolidated his reputation was as a godly patron. Religion was an issue upon which he spoke little in Parliament, but his opinions can be inferred from his behaviour at local level. He was one of the plaintiffs in the 1615 lawsuit which established a trust to control the advowson of Leeds parish church, and confirmed the anti-Catholic firebrand Alexander Cooke as vicar, who had been deprived of his previous cure for non-subscription to the 1604 Canons. Thereafter (in 1619) Savile passed land at Headingley to the parish trustees for a chapel of ease.36 Closer to home, Savile’s own chaplain, James Nutter, was twice cited for nonconformity as preacher at nearby Woodkirk chapel, and during the 1625 election he circulated libels about the Catholic sympathies of Savile’s rival, William Mallory*, a tactic Savile’s friends had previously used against one of his rivals at the 1597 election. Savile’s most powerful clerical ally was Dr. John Favour, chaplain to Archbishop Mathew of York, and vicar of Halifax, one of the few places where Wentworth’s canvassing proved ineffective during the general election of December 1620.37

For all the benefits which accrued from his local following, Savile never merely used the West Riding as a stepping stone to greater things, but fought tenaciously on behalf of his local community, even when his career might have been better served by a diplomatic silence. Thus in 1614 he was one of the few non-merchant MPs who spoke out against the Cockayne project, and in 1624, when he had everything to gain at Court by supporting a breach with Spain, the better to highlight Wentworth’s misgivings about this policy change, he became one of the most obdurate opponents of war. Even in 1626, while striving to win Buckingham’s favour, Savile repeatedly argued that the collapse of the export trade following the outbreak of hostilities with Spain meant that the West Riding was unable to sustain the level of taxation the government demanded for the war effort. Savile’s local standing was founded upon this hard-won reputation as a principled commonwealthsman as much as any individual initiative, and it was a combination of the two factors which enabled him to challenge far more influential rivals for control of the shire.

II. Early Career
Savile erupted onto the stage of Yorkshire politics at the county election of 1597, overthrowing the official candidates promoted by the Council in the North, Sir John Stanhope* and Sir Thomas Hoby*. His opponents subsequently dismissed his supporters as ‘a few gentlemen and a great multitude of clothiers, woolmen and other freeholders of the West Riding’ - the local constituency he had already been nurturing for a decade - yet he could not have achieved his sensational victory without the assistance of Gilbert Talbot†, 7th earl of Shrewsbury, whose antipathy to Stanhope was deep seated, and who may have persuaded Savile to stand in the first place. The earl’s backing brought the support of his Sheffield tenantry and neighbours such as the Wentworths of Elmsall and Wentworth Woodhouse and Richard Gargrave*, while on the eve of the election Savile won over two North Riding landowners, Sir William Fairfax† and Sir Richard Mauleverer, probably by offering them the opportunity to pair with him the following day. At the hustings Savile seized the initiative, citing the 1413 statute barring non-residents (such as Stanhope) from election, spreading rumours that Hoby’s brother had promoted a bill against the Yorkshire cloth interest in the previous Parliament, and overcoming his opponents’ calls for a poll by the simple expedient of seizing the under-sheriff and riding out of York Castle yard.38

Savile’s outrageous conduct earned him three weeks in the Fleet, but he kept his parliamentary seat. At the next election he had the good sense not to challenge the authority of lord president Burghley (Thomas Cecil†), who secured the return of Stanhope’s brother and his vice-president, Sir Thomas Fairfax I*. However, the humiliation Savile had visited upon the Council in the North in 1597 weighed heavily upon Burghley’s successors. In 1604 the newly appointed lord president, Lord Sheffield, was palpably relieved to be able to strike a deal under which Savile received official backing for the knighthood of the shire in conjunction with Francis Clifford*. At the election Savile, who turned out by far the greater number of freeholders, tactfully allowed Clifford (heir to an earldom) to take precedence on the return.39

While not one of the leading lights of James’s first Parliament, Savile played a significant role in its day-to-day proceedings, promoting and managing a range of legislation. The first measure with which he was closely involved was a complex bill recasting the 1563 Act for the leather trade, which he reported on 16 May 1604. This was rejected by the Lords, and consequently a fresh draft was tabled on 26 June, which Savile also reported. Savile was lobbied about this bill by the London Cordwainers’ Company, and passions ran high in the City, particularly among the curriers, who were not regarded as members of the leather trade: on 16 June complaint was made of a currier who had remonstrated with Savile over his handling of the bill.40 He had no obvious personal interest in this legislation, and may have been chosen as committee chairman for his impartiality. On 14 Apr. 1606 he tabled a seemingly official bill allowing the Crown the reversion to all lands granted away by letters patent where the grantee had no male heirs. His interest in this measure in unknown, and as he apparently failed to return to the House after the Easter recess, he was not present when it was rejected on 30 April.41 His involvement with bills concerning the subdivision of tenements in London (27 Apr. 1604, and later on 1 June 1614, 4 Mar. 1626), is explained by his complaint that an uncontrolled influx of poor tenants created just as many problems for poor relief in Yorkshire: what he sought was ‘a general law against inmates’.42 Perhaps because of his Carey connections, he was a keen advocate of the 1610 bill to repeal earlier statutes concerning the New River, moving twice to expedite the proceedings of the committee (of which he was a member) and presenting a petition from the Hertfordshire gentry which complained of potential interference to rights of way and navigation on the River Lea.43

As knight of the shire for the premier county in England, Savile’s opinions carried intrinsic weight in the Commons, but it took him some time to acquire a reputation as a political heavyweight. Having attended the joint conference of 14 Apr. 1604 at which James’s plans to change his title to ‘king of Great Britain’ were revealed, he asked ‘whether in leagues and treaties the king meant to style himself so’. By this he probably meant to imply that a change of name would cause English diplomats to forfeit their precedency at foreign Courts. His nomination to the committee collating objections to the new title (27 Apr. 1604), and his inclusion as one of the members of the Union Commission (12 May) suggests that a sceptical Commons perceived him as a critic of the king’s plans.44 However, Savile was one of the two commissioners who were absent when the Instrument of Union was submitted to Parliament on 21 Nov. 1606. This might be interpreted as dissent from the report, but it may equally indicate waning interest, as he played little part in the extensive debates over the following months. However, when Sir Christopher Piggot* was expelled from the House on 16 Feb. 1607 for making anti-Scottish remarks, Savile moved that he be saved from additional punishment (i.e. by the king). Moreover, during a confused debate about remanding on 28 May 1607, he was among those who observed that the question had not been adequately formulated.45

While named to the committee for the purveyance bill of 3 Apr. 1604, Savile was not initially one of the diehard opponents of this method of supporting the Household: on 18 May, with the Commons at loggerheads over a proposed national composition, he rejected both fresh legislation and a new composition, offering instead to ‘give double for his shire [than that] which is given now; wisheth that every shire would do the like’. This recommendation would have maintained existing inequalities, to the satisfaction of counties such as Yorkshire (which compounded for a mere ¹495 in 1609) but would hardly have been acceptable to the Home Counties. Savile’s attitudes had apparently hardened by the next session, when he was named to the committee for a more controversial draft of the purveyance bill (30 Jan. 1606), which met with a hostile reception in the Lords. On 12 Apr. John Hare’s* report of the Lords’ objections was summarized by Savile; Henry Yelverton then used this speech as a cue to launch a ringing defence of the Commons’ bill.46

Rising tension over purveyance may explain Savile’s reluctance to concede any increase in the two subsidies voted in February 1606: official spokesmen made much of the royal deficit during a debate of 14 Mar. 1606, but Savile dismissed such claims with the tart observation that ‘many more means will be propounded if we voluntarily offer this’. His mistrust of the government had deepened by 1610 when, having missed the initial debates over the Great Contract, he registered his doubts in a lengthy speech on 2 June. He questioned the merits of exchanging the Crown’s concessions for a vote of supply and an annual composition, arguing that the projected annual ‘support’ of ¹100,000 in lieu of wardship would be ‘as much as the subjects can well yield’, and he scorned the government’s promises that this contribution would not set a precedent:

if we bargain for those seven things offered, which all are either the straining of the prerogative royal upon the liberties of the subjects or abuses of inferior officers, we shall find that every Parliament there will be some thing or other found wherein the subject will be grieved, and will be enforced to give a further support for the discharge thereof to the king, so that it will be as usual to give a support as a subsidy.
At the supply debate on 14 June Savile returned to the same theme, reminding the king of ‘the poor estate of his subjects’ and moving that official assurances that James would give serious consideration to the Commons’ grievances (most notably impositions) be guaranteed by inclusion in the preamble to the subsidy bill.47

In 1614 Savile was returned for the senior county unopposed, and the dispute between Sir John Mallory* and Sir Thomas Wentworth over the second seat was laid aside until his arrival. He did not reach Westminster until after Easter, arriving with a mind to make trouble. He had probably been detained in the north by unrest arising from Alderman Cockayne’s project to supplant the Merchant Adventurers’ monopoly of cloth exports, against which he vented his anger on 20 May:

at this present there was such a stop of the cloth market here [at Blackwell Hall in London] as there was not so little as ¹4-5,000 worth of cloth out of Yorkshire that they could be bid no money for. And that within ten miles where he dwelt there was not so few as 13,000 people set a-work with these cloths, and many a thousand of them had not ¹20 stock, many not above 20 or 30s., so as they could suffer no delays in their sale without hazard of starving; and if this stop of cloth continue but one 14 days, he knows not what will follow.
Cockayne and his opponents were questioned the following afternoon, but thereafter the issue received only one mention in the parliamentary record before the dissolution. The problem was that the government, having just agreed to back Cockayne, was in no mood to entertain criticism of the project, while the Commons was reluctant to devote time to an issue which, although a glaring abuse of royal power, was not technically a breach of the prerogative.48

To gain even this brief airing of his grievances against Cockayne, Savile apparently came to an understanding with the most influential group in the House, the lawyers who wished to make impositions the centrepiece of the Parliament. As a practical man who expressed little appreciation of abstract concepts such as liberties of the subject, Savile had rarely touched upon this issue in previous sessions: in 1606 he wittily claimed that the eloquence of Sir Francis Bacon had almost persuaded him of the merits of the government’s case over impositions; but he is not recorded to have spoken during the extensive impositions debates of June 1610.49 However, on 5 May 1614 he delivered a speech carefully crafted to further the agenda of the anti-impositions lobby, upsetting a motion to begin the scheduled debate on supply by means of an entirely bogus attack on Sir Edwin Sandys for his failure to present a report on impositions which had also been arranged for that morning. Several other speakers tried to return to the question of supply, but Savile, while offering the empty concession that ‘we all stood affected to give His Majesty liberally in convenient time’, reminded the House that the subsidy of 1610 had been voted in return for permission to debate impositions, and darkly hinted that any attempt to obstruct the resumption of this debate might affect the Commons’ future generosity.50

Savile continued to co-operate with the leadership of the House throughout the 1614 session. On 13 May he dismissed a hare-brained plot to unseat Sir Roger Owen as chairman of the investigation into the ‘undertakers’ who had allegedly engaged to manage the House for the Crown, growling ‘that in Sir W[alter] Mildmay’s† time no disorder, now many young gentlemen of a great spirit occasioning this disorder’. Twelve days later he joined the attack on Bishop Neile, after the latter insisted that impositions were an integral part of the prerogative. On 6 June, with dissolution imminent, he gave vent to his frustrations: when John Hoskins asked to be exonerated for his inflammatory remarks about Scottish courtiers, Savile affirmed that this was possible, ‘but he knew no reason now why any question should be put, since none was accused’. On the following morning, as the House prepared a statement confirming its opposition to impositions, there were attempts to sweeten the pill with a last-minute vote of supply, which Savile dismissed out of hand: ‘not to give now, for now will be the gift of undertaking’. Sir Henry Wotton thereupon attempted a clumsy smear, recalling that Savile had offered to farm the Yorkshire recusancy fines in 1610, and suggesting that he might do so again if Parliament were dissolved. The diarist forbore to record Savile’s response, which was doubtless couched in unparliamentary language, but one newsletter writer claimed that Wotton ‘was cried down and in great danger to be called to the bar, but [e]scaped it narrowly’.51

III. Origins of the Savile-Wentworth Feud
Savile was dragged before the Privy Council within hours of the dissolution, probably as much out of fear that he would challenge Wotton to a duel as for his speeches. However, he was ordered to remain in attendance for the next five weeks, and was further questioned ‘for alleging he had warning from some of his neighbours not to give anything that should confirm the impositions’.52 This accusation undoubtedly damaged Savile’s credit in official circles, and did nothing to discourage the investigation of complaints Lord Sheffield had forwarded in February 1614 about ‘the evil carriage of one Sir John Savile ... that maketh use of his authority to satisfy his own ends’. The details of this case were recited in a Star Chamber bill of November 1615, which accused Savile of releasing prisoners from gaol without due warrant, packing a jury and ignoring orders from the Council in the North. Savile mounted a vigorous defence (which earned him a brief sojourn in the Fleet prison), but with Shrewsbury in disgrace over his wife’s Catholicism and support for Arbella Stuart, he had no obvious advocate for his cause on the Privy Council. Thus in December 1615 he was obliged to relinquish his post as custos rotulorum of the West Riding, although he naturally attempted to put a brave face upon this reverse, insisting that he was ‘rather taking comfort by being eased of the late burden he had so long borne in commission of the peace than apprehending by it any touch of disgrace at all’. He managed his resignation with sufficient tact to be allowed to nominate three men as potential replacements: Sir Thomas Wentworth, his companion as knight of the shire in 1614; and two lawyers, Sir John Jackson† and Serjeant Richard Hutton.53

Savile was undoubtedly relieved by the choice of Wentworth as his successor, calculating that the latter’s youth and inexperience augured well for his chances of reinstatement. Thus in September 1617, having rebuilt a measure of credit with the king, he solicited a letter to Wentworth from the royal favourite, Buckingham, urging Sir Thomas to relinquish the custos-ship in return for a vague promise of ‘as good preferment upon any other occasion’. Wentworth, however, stood his ground, using a copy of Savile’s original resignation letter to support his claim that Savile had been removed for just cause, and protesting that his replacement ‘might justly be taken as the greatest disgrace that could be done unto me’. To Savile’s undoubted dismay, Buckingham sent Wentworth a contrite apology, conceding ‘that I see it was a misinformation given to His Majesty and to me’ and urging him ‘not to trouble yourself ... with any doubt of further proceeding in this matter’.54

This humiliation provoked Savile’s enduring feud with Wentworth, which burst into the public domain in the autumn of 1620, when the two men placed their personal rivalry before the county community in a bitterly fought election for the knighthood of the shire. Wentworth’s decision to challenge his rival must initially have seemed the height of folly, as Savile had reached the zenith of his electoral influence in 1614, when his assistance enabled Wentworth to beat off a challenge from Sir John Mallory. However, this victory held a warning for Savile, as Mallory had countered Savile’s dominance of the West Riding by assembling an impressive array of gentry support from the East and North Ridings, ranging from the puritan Sir William Constable, 1st bt.* to the Catholic Sir Henry Constable of Halsham, a coalition which suggests a growing anxiety outside the West Riding over Savile’s domination of the county seats. It was Wentworth who drew the requisite lesson from this election, carefully seeking support from across the county in 1620.55

Savile, meanwhile, used the same canvassing methods against Wentworth which had served him well for over 20 years. He declared his intentions with the improbable claim that he ‘had received three hundred letters in two days from gentlemen of worth to move him to stand for election’, and consolidated his support among the West Riding clothiers by portraying himself as ‘their martyr, having suffered for them’ in the aftermath of the Addled Parliament. His credentials as a ‘country’ candidate were reinforced by his determination to stand against Wentworth’s running-mate, secretary of state Sir George Calvert*, and (as in 1597) he used his servants to spread rumours that a courtier, ‘being not resident in the county, cannot by law be chosen; and being His Majesty’s secretary and a stranger, one not safe to be trusted by the country’. Yet for all his extravagant claims, Savile’s support never extended beyond his natural constituency: the petition he submitted to the privileges’ committee in February 1621 was signed by over 300 clothiers, but included only a handful of clothier-gentry such as John Kaye and Gregory Armytage, while the only county figure who seems to have rallied to his side was William Mallory, who blamed Wentworth for his father’s defeat in 1614.56

Despite the confident assumption of some of Wentworth’s friends that Savile stood ‘to hazard the loss of all’ by appearing at the hustings, the issue still hung in the balance at election day, when both sides attempted a range of subterfuges. Wentworth, having secured the sheriff’s support, proposed to square off against Savile, leaving Calvert to be returned uncontested, but, as in 1597, Savile frustrated this plan by pairing with his son, Sir Thomas Savile*, at the last minute. The outcome was decided by the sheriff’s blatantly partisan decision to shut the gates of the Castle Yard before all the freeholders had entered, stranding over 1,000 of Savile’s supporters on the wrong side of the barrier. This ruse allowed Christopher Wandesford* and others to swear that Savile had mustered ‘not above one hundred freeholders’ at the election, and while Savile managed to have two high constables punished for canvassing on Wentworth’s behalf, he failed to overturn the result of the election.57

IV. The 1624 Parliament
Savile’s fortunes changed in the summer of 1622, when Wentworth was stricken by the first of several bouts of tertian fever, which left him weakened and unwilling to contest the county election in 1624. This was dominated by the recent suspension of the recusancy laws and the likelihood of a breach with Spain, which meant that Savile’s impeccably godly credentials were an invaluable electoral asset. A contest seemed unlikely until the advent of last-minute rumours of ‘an intention in some to have elected persons suspected in religion, which to us all would have been full of danger and scandal’. In the event, Savile was returned without a contest, and the identity of his rivals remains unknown, but it is possible that lord president Scrope attempted to promote Sir Thomas Fairfax II* and Sir Thomas Belasyse*, both of whom had recusant wives. This would certainly explain why Savile was willing to join with Wentworth (who sat for Pontefract) in exposing Scrope’s Catholic sympathies to the Commons in April 1624.58

Upon his arrival at Westminster, Savile seemed to have every reason to support Prince Charles, Buckingham and the ‘patriot’ coalition in their efforts to put an end to the pro-Spanish orientation of government policy for a decade and more, yet he quickly confounded such expectations. Even when considering an issue such as the suspension of the recusancy laws, Savile willingly gave James the benefit of the doubt: ‘the king never did prohibit the execution of the laws against papists, but [did] only connive at the non-execution of the laws, which His Majesty might do with honour’.59 Falling as it did from the lips of a man who had routinely discounted the solemn assurances offered by the same king a decade earlier, this statement suggests that Savile had either developed a spontaneous confidence in the king, or that he found the patriot agenda so disquieting that he aimed to ensure its advocates did not compel James to subscribe to their agenda.

Savile’s differences with the patriots emerged during the debates over funding for the war likely to arise from a breach with Spain. On 5 Mar. 1624 Sir Edwin Sandys reported the 3rd earl of Southampton’s motion to give the king an open-ended guarantee of financial support for such a war. A similar undertaking had been adopted without dissent on 4 June 1621, but Savile warned that Southampton’s motion ‘was a great engagement, and that having once passed it, it was not in our power to revoke it nor moderate it, but the king would be judge [of] what we are able’.60 The motion was dropped, but a variant of the same proposal was adopted on 11 March. Meanwhile, in the Lords, Prince Charles encouraged the Commons to give generously, an exhortation which was joyfully received by almost everyone except Savile who, as one of the committee appointed to pen a vote of thanks, protested that he had ‘never observed the House so full of compliments, and his nature was against it, he had rather action than words’.61

By the time the subsidy debate opened on 19 Mar., the sum required from the Commons, originally set at ¹780,000 by James, had been whittled down to ¹300,000, which it was proposed to assign to defensive preparations and support for the Dutch. Many Members retained misgivings about the scale of such a financial commitment, fears Savile touched upon with a deceptively simple motion, which was ‘to know first what we should do, then how we should do it, and how to levy it’. This opened the floodgates to a range of speakers, who voiced their hopes and fears for a war, and as a result it took most of the morning for the hawks to bring the House back to the question of supply. Calls for a vote on the number of subsidies were judged to be premature by several speakers, including Savile, who disingenuously insisted ‘more danger to ask too little than too much, therefore to be well examined’.62 This carried the debate into a second day, when Savile agreed to support a grant of three subsidies and three fifteenths, which was to be tied to Sir Benjamin Rudyard’s* strategy for the defence of Ireland, the navy, fortifications and the Dutch. Doubtless with his constituents in mind, Savile also moved ‘that pretermitted customs, which undoes the kingdom by the hindering of the trade of clothing, may be taken away, and this will both enable and encourage the people to give’. This proposal was dashed, but he returned with a final unsuccessful protest that the sum agreed could not all be paid within a single year.63 Surprisingly, after this dogged resistance, when Prince Charles urged the Commons to allow a first reading for the subsidy bill on 10 Apr., Savile noted that while some insisted that the Commons would not allow it to pass until they had secured their legislative agenda, he, for one, was willing to ‘give over talking and go into action’.64

It is difficult to reconstruct the agenda Savile brought to Parliament in 1624. His obstruction of the aims of the patriot coalition may be interpreted as resentment at their failure to solicit his support before the session began, while his obstreperous behaviour, like Wentworth’s over the Forced Loan a few years later, served as a reminder that, although he had been out of office for nearly a decade, he was simply too influential to be ignored. Yet one can also take his speeches at face value: much as he may have lamented the misfortunes of the Protestant cause in Europe, he clearly doubted the ability of the nation to bear the burden of an offensive war, and feared the prospect of blundering into such a commitment without due consideration of strategy and cost.

V. The Move into Buckingham’s Favour
Charles’s accession in March 1625 occasioned fresh elections. Savile declared his candidacy immediately, but Wentworth consulted with friends at Court before making a decision about whether to mount a challenge. In his absence Sir Thomas Fairfax I and William Mallory stepped forward, but the latter eventually withdrew in the face of rumours, spread by Savile’s supporters, about his Catholic connections. This allowed Wentworth to pair with Fairfax, albeit only days before the election, and a close-run contest was, as in 1620, won by Wentworth through the partiality of the sheriff (Sir Richard Cholmley*). On the first day of business at Westminster, Sir Edward Giles tabled a petition from Savile’s supporters, and despite Wentworth’s efforts to secure an immediate adjournment of the session, it was given priority by the committee for privileges. Wentworth’s supporters employed a wide repertoire of time-wasting tricks, but Savile circumvented them by simply endorsing his adversaries’ version of events. This meant that the outcome of the election was quickly referred back to the Commons, which ordered a writ for a new election. However, after a hastily organized campaign and ‘a tedious and troublesome polling’, the earlier result was confirmed.65

Savile’s defeat ultimately served him well, as Wentworth’s refusal to countenance any increase in the two subsidies voted at the start of the 1625 session damaged his credit with Buckingham and meant that he was pricked as sheriff of Yorkshire in November 1625 to exclude him from the new Parliament, summoned for the following February. Savile paired with his son, Sir Thomas, while Wentworth promoted the candidacy of his neighbour Sir Francis Wortley*, who had picked a fight with Sir Thomas shortly after the 1625 election. Meanwhile, there were reports that Sir John Savile was courting support in the East Riding on the understanding that he would promote an investigation into lord president Scrope in Parliament. Wentworth responded by pairing Wortley with the undeniably godly Sir William Constable, custos of the East Riding, but then suffered a setback when Sir Henry Savile* (a relative of Sir John, but hitherto a Wentworth supporter) declared for his rival. In a letter to Sir Henry, Wentworth hinted at the prospect of a compromise, and on the day of the election Sir Thomas Savile was conveniently ‘surprised with a sudden sickness’ which obliged him to ‘resign my interest in that business to another’. Wortley also stood aside, leaving Sir John Savile and Constable to be returned without a contest.66 This rare accord between the rival Yorkshire factions failed to transfer to Westminster, where Savile filed a Star Chamber bill against Wentworth and his allies about the conduct of the 1625 election. This lawsuit seems to have been entirely vexatious, as Savile was fined in 1629 for ‘letting the same hang as a libel against them [the defendants] above three years’.67

Upon his arrival in the Commons, Savile, fresh from suppressing riots among unemployed weavers at Wakefield, demonstrated the same concerns about the burdens of war which had preoccupied him in 1624. On 25 Feb. he claimed that the subsidy to Christian IV of Denmark would cost ¹50,000 a month, an obviously insupportable sum, and begged for relief for the poorer subsidymen: ‘the copyholder is the third or fourth part of England; he languishes and ready to give up the last gasp, and by raising of the [land]lords’ fines worse’. Two days later he interrupted a series of complaints about mismanagement of Crown revenues to warn that economic crisis caused by the war required urgent action:

there is 30,000 near his house that if there be no help they will seek help themselves. It was at a great hazard this summer, but not so ill as now; the poor being hindered in their trade threatened to take meat out of their mouths, since that if they want work many thousands will be in great extremity. The merchant does not sell for [want] of the cloth in their country.
These concerns meant that when the king made overtures for a grant of supply on 10 Mar., Savile preferred to examine the Council of War’s accounts for the 1624 subsidies: ‘no man will be willing to give his money into a bottomless gulf’. Three days later he pronounced himself ‘much distracted’ over the question of supply, and when a draft reply to Charles’s inquiry about supply was tabled on 14 Mar., he protested ‘that by this answer we have tied ourselves in a parliamentary manner. The charges cannot be borne. If we give never so much, unless things be well rectified at home in the king’s estate it will be to little purpose’.68

Savile’s problem in the opening weeks of the session was that he sought a debate on reform of Crown finances, whereas those around him merely wished to attack Buckingham. Thus on 24 Feb., when Eliot hinted that reform should be accompanied by the removal of ministers who wasted the Crown’s revenues, Savile pointedly called for the privy councillors, hitherto conspicuous by their silence, to provide a clear lead to the House. Three days later Savile vented his feelings in a letter to his allies in Leeds, accusing Buckingham’s tormentors of being ‘so resolutely bent and with such eagerness upon the pursuit of a great man as rather than they will fail or surcease they are resolved to hazard the whole estate of the commonwealth’.69 With Wentworth out of favour, Savile had everything to gain from a rapprochement with the duke, and the tone of his speeches during March charts the course of this developing relationship. On 1 Mar. he urged the House to allow Buckingham to answer any charges arising from the detention of the French ship the St. Peter. Ten days later, shortly before the vote to discontinue this investigation, he pronounced himself ‘not yet satisfied’ over Buckingham’s conduct. However, by the time the incident was raised again on 16 Mar. he considered the duke’s action ‘an error but no grief’, and on 23 Mar. he endorsed Buckingham’s defence of coastal shipping against enemy privateers.70

For all his newfound dependence on the duke, Savile remained reluctant to endorse any grant of taxation without securing relief for his Yorkshire neighbours, although tact now demanded he phrase his objections more constructively. Thus on 23 Mar. he welcomed Secretary Coke’s report on the Crown’s war budget, but recommended an investigation of waste rather than immediate supply; while four days later an anonymous speech (which can probably be attributed to Savile) endorsed a grant of three subsidies and three fifteenths in return for a discount upon the ¹10,000-worth of Privy Seal loans then being collected in Yorkshire. This speech brought a swift response from the government over the Easter recess, when Savile led a Yorkshire delegation before the Privy Council to secure a two-thirds’ reduction in the county’s privy seals.71 However, Savile’s gratitude had its limits: he declined to support a request for additional supply on 25-6 Apr., although he suggested several alternative sources of revenue. The first, ironically, was a revival of the Great Contract he had spurned in 1610, which, he observed, would already have yielded the Crown ¹2 million had it been adopted. He also called for a graduated Poll Tax upon baronets, knights and magistrates, and moved that all those rated above ¹4 in the subsidy rolls be required to pay half their quota for the three subsidies at once. Less helpfully, on 24 May he renewed his earlier attack on the pretermitted customs, which, he claimed, cost Yorkshire ¹8,000 a year, although he conceded that composition might now be a wiser course than abolition.72

Following the concession on privy seals, Savile moved ever more obviously into Buckingham’s orbit. When Eliot raised the St. Peter incident yet again on 1 May, Savile reminded him that attorney-general Heath* had long since assured the House that Buckingham had acted under direct orders from the king. Four days later, with Buckingham’s impeachment charges almost complete, Savile urged the House to pass a fresh allegation against the duke over to the Lords. The presentation of the impeachment charges was a fiasco, with Charles arresting the two Members who implied that he and Buckingham had hastened the death of his father. Savile counselled against an over-hasty response, and when his own detention in 1597 was cited as a precedent, he tried to put a favourable gloss on the incident, observing that there had been no suspension of the Commons’ proceedings, and the House had simply petitioned Queen Elizabeth for his release as a matter of grace.73

By the end of May Savile was being tipped for a peerage to swell the ranks of Buckingham’s supporters in the Lords, while in the Commons his advocacy of the duke had become sufficiently irritating to provoke an attack on his own credibility. A copy of his letter of 27 Feb. was produced by Sir Francis Foljambe on 22 May, and quickly condemned as a gross insult to the House. Savile lost his temper and accused Eliot and Sir William Armyne of conspiring to defame him; forced to retract his remarks, he vehemently denied writing the letter, although he lost credibility by trying to foist the authorship upon his son Edmund and his servant Robert Benson in turn. Examined under oath on 8 June, three of Savile’s associates admitted that they had circulated copies of the letter among the clothiers to drum up support for a petition to Parliament, and had then tried to conceal their role when Savile came under attack in the Commons. With his defence reduced to a number of convenient memory lapses, Savile looked to be on the verge of expulsion, and was only saved by the dissolution of 15 June.74

VI. Court Favour and the Forced Loan
Savile’s decision to support Buckingham in his hour of need was based on more than a reduction in the privy seals, which was merely an indication of favours to come. Two weeks after the dissolution his appointment to the newly formed commission to improve the Crown’s revenues gave him the opportunity to implement some of the financial reforms he had advocated in Parliament. Within weeks he secured a patent to compound for the tenures of those holding lands in capite worth under ¹10 a year in the north of England, effectively a small-scale trial for the revival of the Great Contract which he had advocated on 26 Apr. 1626.75 The revenue commission was only the start of Savile’s preferments, however, for on 12 July 1626 he finally regained his place as custos of the West Riding, news of which apparently reached Wentworth as he was presiding over the quarter sessions. On the following day the charter for incorporating Leeds passed the great seal, under which Savile became the town’s first alderman.76 Yet the office he probably coveted most was the presidency of the North, then held by Lord Scrope. The latter was related to Buckingham by marriage, and therefore Savile had defended him in the 1626 Parliament against allegations that he had been responsible for the rise of Catholicism in the North. However, he had done so only in the most lukewarm terms: the real reason for the rise in recusancy, Savile said, was the lack of preaching ministers, and Scrope was unable to influence events, being ‘not so great a man as to carry a faction in Yorkshire’. Scrope would almost certainly have been dismissed if the Parliament had reached a successful conclusion, but the dissolution allowed him to remain in office, although Savile took over the political management of Yorkshire.77

On 8 Nov. 1626 Savile was sworn a privy councillor. There was much speculation as to the reasons, the most convincing being that ‘his merit must spring from the new commission for the royal subsidy [Forced Loan] in that county [Yorkshire], for as yet ... the man hath done little’.78 In fact, he was initially assigned to assist with the collection in Leicestershire, where the 5th earl of Huntingdon opposed the Forced Loan, and he may only have arrived in his own county at the end of January 1627.79 At this stage, little had been achieved in Yorkshire, largely because of the example set by various ‘Parliament-men’, particularly Sir John Jackson, who had publicly promised to hang any tenant of his who paid the Loan. Yet the greatest danger came not from such empty threats, but from Wentworth, Constable and Sir John Hotham*, who simply evaded the collectors for several months. Many others (including, perhaps, some of the collectors) held back to see how the government would respond to this challenge, and despite a substantial administrative effort, none of the ¹19,000 charged upon the shire reached the Exchequer before Easter 1627.80

In the absence of much of the relevant documentation it is difficult to chart the course of the Forced Loan in Yorkshire, but Savile apparently overcame a potentially disastrous campaign of non-compliance in two ways. First, he looked to broaden the base of his support within the shire: the Catholic Viscount Dunbar had already been allowed to take a leading role in the East Riding by the autumn of 1626, and in the following spring Savile secured the acquiescence of two key figures in the North and West Ridings, Sir Thomas Belasyse and Sir Thomas Fairfax I (Sir William Constable’s father-in-law), by having them elevated to the peerage in May and October 1627.81 Secondly, enforcement was ‘sharpened by our great countryman [Savile]’: George Radcliffe* was committed to the Marshalsea at the beginning of May, perhaps as a warning to Wentworth, who remained obdurate and was imprisoned at the beginning of July, while Constable and Hotham were hauled before the Privy Council later the same month. This activity had a salutory effect on the collection of the Loan in Yorkshire: between 14 April and 30 June 1627 ¹13,000 arrived in the Exchequer, and the county eventually paid 80 per cent of its quota, well above the average yield.82

Savile’s industry was rewarded by Buckingham, who appointed him comptroller of the Household following the death of Sir John Suckling* in April 1627. In the north he continued to expand his sphere of influence by inaugurating a commission to compound for recusancy fines, a scheme he had proposed to the revenue commission the previous year, which quickly raised the Crown ¹3,500 a year. This income, and a levy on Newcastle coal, were assigned to maintain a small squadron of ships appointed to defend the east coast against the Dunkirk privateers, whose activities had been a major grievance for the Yorkshire merchants since the outbreak of the war, and when the money ran out Savile supported the project with ¹5,400 from his own pocket. Finally, Savile was one of the promoters of Sir Cornelius Vermuyden’s project to drain the Hatfield Levels, which brought in ¹10,000 towards the war effort.83

VII. Eclipse and Final Years
Having invested so heavily in prerogative government, Savile opposed the summons of a fresh Parliament in 1628. Even after the decision was taken, he was one of the few councillors who supported Buckingham’s motion that the session be postponed until the end of April, and that the punitive privy seals sent out on the eve of the elections should not be rescinded, ‘lest refractories might thereby be encouraged’.84 However, he threw himself into the county election with his customary vigour. His prospects looked good, as he could now anticipate support not only from the West Riding clothiers but also from Dunbar’s supporters in the East Riding and from the Catholics who had flocked to compound for their recusancy fines. Wentworth countered this by pairing with another figure ‘gracious with the papists’, Henry Belasyse*, whose father was thus detatched from Savile’s orbit. Savile then foolishly damaged his standing within the honour of Pontefract by lobbying to purchase the former Crown estates there from the London corporation, against the wishes of the tenants. All of these considerations made the contest a close call: it was reported that ‘Sir Thomas Wentworth had the major number at the poll, but the major number of them who put down their names in writing were for Sir John Savile’. Despite this, the sheriff, Sir Thomas Fairfax II, declared Wentworth and Belasyse elected, perhaps out of pique at the fact that Savile had allowed the junior branch of his family to acquire a peerage and thus take precedence over him. The Commons, having already begun an inquiry into Savile’s ‘commission of idolatry’ [recusancy composition], were hardly disposed to give a fair hearing to his protests about the election, and Wentworth’s return was confirmed on 17 April.85

Savile’s political position began to unravel after the end of the 1628 session. He was ennobled as Baron Savile of Pontefract on 21 July, but the success of the Parliament meant that Wentworth was awarded a barony on the following day. Buckingham’s assassination threatened Savile’s position, but he quickly made overtures to the 3rd earl of Pembroke for support. Wentworth responded with allegations of bribe-taking by Savile’s recusancy commission, and finally surpassed his rival in December, acquiring a viscountcy and succeeding Scrope as lord president.86 Clarendon (Edward Hyde†) later recalled that Savile was then stripped of office and sent down to the country in disgrace, but while undoubtedly dismayed at his reversal of fortune, Savile confounded expectations by retaining the comptrollership until his death, and probably helped Sir Henry Savile to victory over Wentworth’s candidate at the parliamentary by-election of February 1629.87

There were frequent reports that Savile’s health deteriorated after his fall from power, and indeed he died at Howley Hall on 30/31 August 1630. His main estates went to his eldest surviving son, Sir Thomas, but in his will, drafted eight months earlier, he appointed his daughter, Anne Leigh, as executrix, which provoked several years’ worth of litigation between the two over the title to three manors within the honour of Pontefract which he had bought in 1628.88

Ref Volumes: 1604-1629
Author: Simon Healy
Notes
1. T.D. Whitaker, Loidis and Elmete, 235; R. Thoresby, Ducatus Leodiensis, 150.
2.Al. Cant.; LI Admiss.
3. Thoresby, 150.
4. C142/210/116.
5.CSP Dom. 1595-7, p. 166; York City Archives, House Bk. 31, f. 215.
6.CP.
7. C142/476/141; Whitaker, 235.
8.CSP Dom. 1581-90, p. 392.
9. R. Somerville, Hist. Duchy Lancaster, i. 523; DCO, Letters and Warrants 1626-32, f. 74.
10.List of Sheriffs comp. A. Hughes (PRO, L. and I. ix), 80.
11. W. Yorks. AS (Bradford), 32D86/38, f. 21; C231/4, f. 13; Som. RO, DD/PH219/55.
12.CSP Dom. 1595-7, p. 166; 1599-1600, p. 437; HMC Hatfield, ix. 396.
13.APC, 1597-8, pp. 377-8.
14. C181/1, f. 19v; 181/3, f. 243v.
15. R. Reid, Council in the North, 398, 496.
16. HCA 14/39/217; E179/283, ‘commrs. for the aid’; C212/22/20-3; Fairfax Corresp. ed. G.W. Johnson, i. 210; SP14/61/64; DL28/33/32; Yorks. ERRO, DDBE/27/2; C193/12/2.
17. C66/2384/2; C231/4, f. 214.
18.APC, 1627, pp. 312-13; 1627-8, p. 206; 1628-9, p. 205.
19.CJ, i. 208b.
20.APC, 1626, p. 353.
21.CSP Dom. 1625-6, p. 495; APC, 1626, p. 51; G.E. Aylmer, ‘Charles I’s Commission on Fees, 1627-40’, BIHR, xxxi. 60.
22.HMC Rutland, i. 484.
23. C142/210/116; 142/476/141; C2/Jas.I/R6/31, 34; 2/Jas.I/R10/1; WARD 5/49; C2/Chas.I/R63/92.
24. Somerville, i. 523; ii. 152; Pennine Valley ed. B. Jennings, 39-57.
25. STAC 5/S71/32, 5/W71/21; R.W. Hoyle, ‘Vain Projects: the Crown and its Copyholders in the Reign of Jas. I’, Eng. Rural Soc. ed. J. Chartres and D. Hey, 85-7; DL28/33/32; Add. 29974, ff. 18-20; CJ, i. 403a; HLRO, O.A. 7 Jas.I, c. 25; STAC 8/258/5.
26.Strafforde Letters (1739) ed. W. Knowler, i. 11; CSP Dom. 1639-40, pp. 251-2; HMC Hatfield, xi. 583; H. Heaton, Yorks. Woollen and Worsted Industries, 138-44; SR, iv. 1091, 1137-40; CJ, i. 339b, 1032b.
27.CJ, i. 225b, 229b; Kyle thesis, 207-9; W. Yorks. AS (Bradford), 32D86/38, ff. 82-4; Bowden, 150-4.
28.CJ, i. 267, 269b, 277b; LJ, ii. 394a; HMC Hatfield, xxiii. 220-1; xxiv. 52; Hull RO, L.159-60.
29. ‘Nicholas 1624’, ff. 136v-7, 141v-2v; W. Yorks. AS (Bradford), 32D86/28, p. 1.
30. W. Yorks. AS (Bradford), 32D86/19, ff. 89-90; York City Archives, House Bk. 34, ff. 290v-1; House Bk. 35, f. 6; Procs. 1626, ii. 288, 366, 369.
31.CJ, i. 750a, 754b, 763a; Kyle thesis, 464-6; Mesters to Masters ed. C. Binfield and D. Hey, 17-19.
32.CJ, i. 489a, 747b; ‘Spring 1624’, p. 156; Kyle thesis, 222-7.
33.Procs. 1614 (Commons), 304; CJ, i. 698-9, 758b; ‘Holland 1624’, ii. f. 79; ‘Nicholas 1624’, ff. 192v, 206r-v; ‘Pym 1624’, f. 36.
34.CJ, i. 678b, 747b; HLRO, main pprs. 27 Apr. 1624; Kyle thesis, 80-6, 94-9.
35. G.C.F. Forster, ‘Early years of Leeds Corp.’, Thoresby Soc. Misc. xvi. pt. 4, pp. 253-4.
36. C78/279/12; R.A. Marchant, Puritans and Church Courts, 33-4, 240-1; C. Cross, Urban Magistrates and Ministers, 18-19; G. Forster, ‘From Eliz. I to Ralph Thoresby’, in Religion in Leeds ed. A. Mason, 31-3; J.T. Cliffe, Yorks. Gentry, 270.
37. Marchant, 29-30, 42-3, 266; W. and S. Sheils, ‘Textiles and Reform’, in Reformation in Eng. Towns ed. P. Collinson and J. Craig, 141-2; Bodl. Fairfax 34, ff. 47, 71; LPL, ms 701, f. 107; Surr. Hist. Cent. LM Corresp. 14 Dec. 1620.
38.HMC Hatfield, vii. 412-19, 426-7, 436-7; Wentworth Pprs. ed. J.P. Cooper (Cam. Soc. ser. 4. xii), 37; M. Kishlansky, Parl. Selection, 49-55.
39.APC, 1597-8, pp. 46, 114; Procs. 1626, iii. 238-9, 243-4, 248, 250; Wentworth Pprs. 47-8; LPL, ms 708, f. 131.
40. D. Dean, Law-making and Soc. in Late Eliz. Eng. 142-4, 277; CJ, i. 189a, 211a, 240b, 246b, 248b; SR, iv. 1039-48; CD 1604-7, p. 90; GL, ms 7351/1, unfol.
41.Bowyer Diary, 125; CJ, i. 298a, 302b.
42.CJ, i. 188a, 504a, 830b; CD 1604-7, p. 73.
43.CJ, i. 442-4; J.W. Gough, Sir Hugh Myddelton, 39-45; HUGH MYDDELTON.
44.CJ, i. 172a, 188-9, 208b, 957b; R.C. Munden, ‘King, Commons and Reform’, Faction and Parl. ed. K. Sharpe, 62-5; CD 1604-7, pp. 66-7.
45.CJ, i. 1003a, 1014b, 1047b; Bowyer Diary, 306.
46.CJ, i. 162b, 261b, 297b, 975a; P. Croft, ‘Parl., Purveyance and the City of London’, PH, iv. 14-17; Bowyer Diary, 121-2; Carleton to Chamberlain ed. M. Lee, 76; LS13/279, f. 75v; W. Yorks. AS (Bradford), 32D86/38, ff. 161-4.
47.CJ, i. 285a, 439a; Parl. Debates 1610 ed. S.R. Gardiner, 46-7, 57; Procs. 1610 ed. E.R. Foster, ii. 143-6.
48.Procs. 1614 (Commons), 38, 298-306, 317, 382; A. Friis, Alderman Cockayne’s Project and the Cloth Trade; B. Supple, Commercial Crisis and Change, 33-51.
49.CJ, i. 297a; Bowyer Diary, 119-20.
50.Procs. 1614 (Commons), 146, 153, 155, 158, 346.
51. Ibid. 228-30, 426-8, 439-42; Chamberlain Letters ed. N.E. McClure, i. 538. Savile had offered ¹8,000 for a lease of recusancy fines in 1610: SP14/54/78.
52.APC, 1613-14, pp. 457, 460, 479-80; HMC Portland, ix. 138.
53.Wentworth Pprs. 83-6; STAC 8/225/12; Strafforde Letters, i. 2-3; C231/4, f. 13.
54.Strafforde Letters, i. 4; Fortescue Pprs. ed. S.R. Gardiner (Cam. Soc. n.s. i), 23-8; Wentworth Pprs. 100-1, 105; R. Cust, ‘Wentworth’s Change of Sides in the 1620s’, Pol. World of Wentworth ed. J.F. Merritt, 66-7.
55.Procs. 1614 (Commons), 38; W. Yorks. AS (Bradford), 32D86/38/2, f. 14; YORKSHIRE.
56. YORKSHIRE; Strafforde Letters, i. 10-11, 13; Surr. Hist. Cent. LM 1331/26. Calvert had recently purchased a small estate at Kiplin in the North Riding.
57.Beaumont Pprs. ed. W.D. Macray, 43-4; Surr. Hist. Cent., LM1331/25; CJ, i. 556-7, 571b; CD 1621, iv. 23; vi. 69; Nicholas, Procs. 1621, i. 175-6.
58. Cust, ‘Change of Sides’, 70; Wentworth Pprs. 202-3; HMC Hodgkin, 42; Bodl. Eng. Misc. C.855, ff. 131-2; CJ, i. 776a; ‘Holland 1624’, ii. f. 52.
59. T. Cogswell, Blessed Revolution, 145-65; ‘Nicholas 1624’, f. 118v.
60. C. Russell, PEP, 118-21; Cogswell, 184-5; C. Russell, ‘Wentworth and Anti-Spanish Sentiment’, Wentworth, 61-2; Ferrar 1624, p. 61.
61. Cogswell, 188-95; CJ, i. 684a; Holles 1624, p. 34.
62. Cogswell, 195, 203-11; Holles 1624, p. 41; CJ, i. 743b.
63. Cogswell, 212-15; ‘Spring 1624’, pp. 148-9; ‘Nicholas 1624’, ff. 101v-3.
64. Cogswell, 234; ‘Nicholas 1624’, f. 138; Holles 1624, p. 74.
65. YORKSHIRE; Fairfax Corresp. i. 6-7; Bodl. Fairfax 34, f. 47; W. Yorks. AS (Bradford), 32D86/38/2, f. 19; Procs. 1625, pp. 206, 295-6, 314-15, 500, 512-15; H. Cholmley, Memoirs (1787), pp. 23-4.
66. YORKSHIRE; Strafforde Letters, i. 32-3; HMC Hodgkin, 43, 285-8; Wentworth Pprs. 246.
67.Fairfax Corresp. i. 24-8; Wentworth Pprs. 250; Historical Collections ed. J. Rushworth, iii. (app.) 21; Harvard Law Sch., ms 1101, ff. 26v-7.
68.APC, 1625-6, pp. 355-6; Procs. 1626, ii. 129-30, 141, 249, 275, 284; Russell, PEP, 281-3, 288-9.
69.Procs. 1626, ii. 116, 122; iii. 303.
70. Ibid. ii. 171, 261, 298, 361.
71. Ibid. 352, 379, 381; APC, 1625-6, pp. 169-70, 421-2, 424; Wentworth Pprs. 249-50.
72.Procs. 1626, iii. 74-8, 321-3.
73. Ibid. ii. 205; iii. 109, 115, 161, 238-9, 243-4, 248, 250; Russell, PEP, 303, 306-7.
74.Procs. 1626, ii. 301, 303-4, 306-8, 392-401; iv. 289; Fairfax Corresp. i. 30-1.
75.HMC Cowper, i. 273; Univ. London, Goldsmiths’ ms 195/1, ff. 2-4; C231/4, f. 208; C66/2384/2; APC, 1626, p. 51; 1627, pp. 312-13.
76. C231/4, f. 207; Wentworth Pprs. 255-6; Strafforde Letters, i. 36; Forster, ‘Leeds’, Thoresby Soc. Misc. xvi. pt. 4, pp. 253-4.
77.Procs. 1626, ii. 358; Reid, 398.
78.APC, 1626, p. 353; CSP Dom. 1625-6, p. 396; HMC Buccleuch, iii. 315; Holles Letters ed. P.R. Seddon (Thoroton Soc. rec. ser. xxxv), 337-8.
79. R. Cust, Forced Loan, 113; HMC Cowper, i. 296; T. Cogswell, Home Divisions, 153-8.
80. SP16/51/35; 16/60/52; 16/84/89.
81. SIR MATTHEW BOYNTON; CP sub Fauconberg, Fairfax of Cameron.
82.APC, 1627, pp. 240, 352, 382, 402, 418; Radcliffe Corresp. ed. T.D. Whitaker, 143-4; E401/1914. Average yield for the Forced Loan in all counties except those billeting troops was around 69 per cent of the original quotas.
83.CSP Dom. 1625-6, p. 518; 1627-8, pp. 125-6, 214, 219, 226, 333; APC, 1626-7, pp. 312-13, 326-7, 413; 1627-8, p. 319; Wentworth Pprs. 264-5, 268, 271-2; E401/2595-7; Univ. London, Goldsmiths’ ms 195/1, f. 4; L.E. Harris, Vermuyden and the Fens, 48-53.
84. Cust, Forced Loan, 77, 85; Holles Letters, 375-6.
85.Wentworth Pprs. 278, 283, 287; CD 1628, ii. 61, 66, 69, 75, 85, 92-3, 156-7, 198, 244, 507-8, 510-11; CLRO, RCE min. bk. 1, ff. 15v, 17v-19v; CSP Dom. 1628-9, p. 43.
86.Wentworth Pprs. 299-301, 308-9; Radcliffe Corresp.168-74; T. Birch, Ct. and Times of Chas. I, i. 421.
87. Clarendon, Hist. of the Rebellion ed. W.D. Macray, i. 341; Wentworth Pprs. 316-17; CSP Dom. 1628-9, pp. 507-8; HMC Buccleuch, iii. 347; YORKSHIRE.
88. Borthwick, Reg. Test. 41, ff. 314-16; C142/476/141; C2/Chas.I/L8/67; 2/Chas.I/S52/10; 2/Chas.I/S63/33; 2/Chas.I/S64/63; 2/Chas.I/S65/66.

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John Savile, 1st Baron Savile of Pontefract (1556-1630) was an English politician; M.P. for Lincoln, 1586: sheriff of Lincolnshire, 1590; knight of the shire for Yorkshire, 1597, 1614, 1624, and 1626; custos rotulorum of West Riding of Yorkshire; ejected from office in 1615, but reappointed in 1626. privy councillor, comptroller of house hold 1627-1630, and created Baron Savile in 1627.

Political career

He entered parliament as member for Lincoln in 1586, and he served as sheriff of that county in 1590. On 3 October 1597 he was elected knight of the shire for the county of York, for which he was again returned in 1614. In the latter Parliament he distinguished himself by his opposition to the king, and was consequently struck off the commission of the peace at the close of the session.[3] He was also custos rotulorum for the West Riding of Yorkshire, but is said to have made "use of his authority to satisfy his own ends". In 1615 he was removed from the office and Thomas Wentworth (afterwards Earl of Strafford) appointed in his place. There had long been bitter rivalry between the Saviles and the Wentworths, and they soon "imported their county quarrels into public affairs".[4] According to Clarendon, Wentworth's "first inclinations and addresses to the court were only to establish his greatness in the country where he apprehended some acts of power from the old Lord Savile, who had been his rival always there, and of late had strengthened himself by being made a privy councillor and an [?373? ] officer at court";[5] and he "rested not until he had bereaved him of all power and place in court, and so sent him down a most abject, disconsolate old man to his country".[5]

Upon his ejection from the office of custos rotulorum, Savile began intriguing with the Duke of Buckingham, whom in September 1617 he induced to write to Wentworth demanding his resignation of the office. Wentworth, however, remonstrated, and, being powerfully supported in the county, carried his point. Buckingham acknowledged that he had been misled by Savile.[6] On 19 January 1624 Savile was again elected for Yorkshire, his colleague being his son Thomas; but in 1625 Wentworth and Lord Fairfax carried the election against him. This was the occasion of the famous dispute in parliament which first brought Wentworth and Eliot into collision. Savile accused the sheriff of having interrupted the polling when it was going against Wentworth, who was his friend. After a heated debate, in which Wentworth broke the rules of the house, and Eliot denounced him as Catiline, the election was declared void.[7] At the by-election Wentworth was again elected; but on 16 Jananuary 1625–6, in a new parliament, Savile once more carried the seat, Wentworth having been made sheriff to prevent his contesting it.[8]

Savile was now high in Buckingham's favour; in July 1626 he was again appointed custos rotulorum in Wentworth's place. Soon afterwards he was sworn of the Privy Council for his services in parliament, and in December was placed on a commission to inquire into abuses in the navy. In the following April his exertions secured the success of the forced loan in Yorkshire,[9] and soon after, through Buckingham's influence, he succeeded Sir John Suckling as comptroller of the household. In May he was placed on a commission to inquire into offices existing and fees taken in Elizabeth's reign. In July he was appointed receiver of the revenues from recusants in the north, and a year later he was created Baron Savile of Pontefract, on the same day (21 July) that Wentworth was raised to the peerage. He held the office of comptroller till his death, aged 74, on 31 August 1630, so that Clarendon's reference to him as an "abject, disconsolate old man" is exaggerated. He was buried in Batley church, Yorkshire, where a monument, with an inflated inscription (printed by Whitaker), was raised to his memory by his daughter, Anne Leigh.[8]

Domestic life

About 1590 Savile built Howley Hall in Batley, which he made his seat; Camden described it as "µdes elegantissimas", and its ruins were still extant in 1900. Tradition says that Rubens visited him there, and painted for him a view of Pontefract. Savile married, first, Catherine, daughter of Charles, lord Willoughby of Parham, by whom he had no issue; secondly, on 20 November 1586, Elizabeth, daughter of Sir Edward, and sister of Sir Henry Cary, 1st Viscount Falkland. By her he had five sons and three daughters; he was succeeded by his eldest surviving son, Thomas Savile, Earl of Sussex.[8]

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About John Savile, 1st Baron Savile of Pontefract

John Savile, 1st Baron Savile of Pontefract (1556–1630) was an English politician; M.P. for Lincoln, 1586: sheriff of Lincolnshire, 1590; knight of the shire for Yorkshire, 1597, 1614, 1624, and 1626; custos rotulorum of West Riding of Yorkshire; ejected from office in 1615, but reappointed in 1626. privy councillor, comptroller of house hold 1627–1630, and created Baron Savile in 1627.[1]

John Savile was born in 1556, the son of Sir Robert Savile of Barkston, Lincolnshire (d. 1585), by his wife Anne Hussey (d. 1562), sister of John Hussey, 1st Baron Hussey of Sleaford, and widow of Sir Richard Thimelby. His father was the illegitimate son of Sir Henry Savile of Thornhill in the West Riding of Yorkshire and had served as sheriff of Lincolnshire in 1573.[2]

He entered parliament as member for Lincoln in 1586, and he served as sheriff of that county in 1590. On 3 October 1597 he was elected knight of the shire for the county of York, for which he was again returned in 1614. In the latter Parliament he distinguished himself by his opposition to the king, and was consequently struck off the commission of the peace at the close of the session.[3] He was also custos rotulorum for the West Riding of Yorkshire, but is said to have made "use of his authority to satisfy his own ends". In 1615 he was removed from the office and Thomas Wentworth (afterwards Earl of Strafford) appointed in his place. There had long been bitter rivalry between the Saviles and the Wentworths, and they soon "imported their county quarrels into public affairs".[4] According to Clarendon, Wentworth's "first inclinations and addresses to the court were only to establish his greatness in the country where he apprehended some acts of power from the old Lord Savile, who had been his rival always there, and of late had strengthened himself by being made a privy councillor and an [?373? ] officer at court";[5] and he "rested not until he had bereaved him of all power and place in court, and so sent him down a most abject, disconsolate old man to his country".[5]

Upon his ejection from the office of custos rotulorum, Savile began intriguing with the Duke of Buckingham, whom in September 1617 he induced to write to Wentworth demanding his resignation of the office. Wentworth, however, remonstrated, and, being powerfully supported in the county, carried his point. Buckingham acknowledged that he had been misled by Savile.[6] On 19 January 1624 Savile was again elected for Yorkshire, his colleague being his son Thomas; but in 1625 Wentworth and Lord Fairfax carried the election against him. This was the occasion of the famous dispute in parliament which first brought Wentworth and Eliot into collision. Savile accused the sheriff of having interrupted the polling when it was going against Wentworth, who was his friend. After a heated debate, in which Wentworth broke the rules of the house, and Eliot denounced him as Catiline, the election was declared void.[7] At the by-election Wentworth was again elected; but on 16 Jananuary 1625–6, in a new parliament, Savile once more carried the seat, Wentworth having been made sheriff to prevent his contesting it.[8]

Savile was now high in Buckingham's favour; in July 1626 he was again appointed custos rotulorum in Wentworth's place. Soon afterwards he was sworn of the Privy Council for his services in parliament, and in December was placed on a commission to inquire into abuses in the navy. In the following April his exertions secured the success of the forced loan in Yorkshire,[9] and soon after, through Buckingham's influence, he succeeded Sir John Suckling as comptroller of the household. In May he was placed on a commission to inquire into offices existing and fees taken in Elizabeth's reign. In July he was appointed receiver of the revenues from recusants in the north, and a year later he was created Baron Savile of Pontefract, on the same day (21 July) that Wentworth was raised to the peerage. He held the office of comptroller till his death, aged 74, on 31 August 1630, so that Clarendon's reference to him as an "abject, disconsolate old man" is exaggerated. He was buried in Batley church, Yorkshire, where a monument, with an inflated inscription (printed by Whitaker), was raised to his memory by his daughter, Anne Leigh.[8]

About 1590 Savile built Howley Hall in Batley, which he made his seat; Camden described it as "µdes elegantissimas", and its ruins were still extant in 1900. Tradition says that Rubens visited him there, and painted for him a view of Pontefract. Savile married, first, Catherine, daughter of Charles, lord Willoughby of Parham, by whom he had no issue; secondly, on 20 November 1586, Elizabeth, daughter of Sir Edward, and sister of Sir Henry Cary, 1st Viscount Falkland. By her he had five sons and three daughters; he was succeeded by his eldest surviving son, Thomas Savile, Earl of Sussex.[8]

Notes

1. ^ Lee, Sidney (1903), Dictionary of National Biography Index and Epitome p. 1161.
2. ^ Pollard 1897, p. 372.
3.^ Pollard 1897, p. 372 cites: Gardiner, ii. 249.
4.^ Pollard 1897, p. 372 cites: Ranke, ii. 202–3.
5.^ a b Pollard 1897, p. 373 cites: Clarendon Rebellion, i. 341.
6.^ Pollard 1897, p. 373 cites: cf. Strafford Letters, passim; Fortescue Papers, Camden Soc., pp. 24, 27; and Browning, Life of Strafford, 1892, pp. 25, &c.
7. ^ Pollard 1897, p. 373 cites: Gardiner, v. 349–51; Forster, Eliot, i. 160.
8.^ a b c Pollard 1897, p. 373
9. ^ Pollard 1897, p. 373 cites: Gardiner, vi. 158.

References

This article incorporates text from a publication now in the public domain: Pollard, Albert Frederick (1897). "Savile, John (1556-1630)". In Lee, Sidney. Dictionary of National Biography 50. London: Smith, Elder & Co. pp. 372,373. The entry cites:
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Fortescue Papers (Camden Soc.);
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G. E. C.'s Complete Peerage;
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Whitaker's, Loidis et Elmete, pp. 237–9.
From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Savile,_1st_Baron_Savile_of_Pontefract
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Sir John Savile, 1st Baron Savile of Pomfret1
M, #112485, b. 1556, d. 31 August 1630
Father Sir Robert Savile, Sheriff of Lincolnshire2 d. 1585
Mother Anne Hussey3 b. c 1516, d. 1562
Sir John Savile, 1st Baron Savile of Pomfret was born in 1556 at of Howley, Yorkshire, England.1 He married Elizabeth Carey, daughter of Sir Edward Carey and Katherine Knyvett, on 20 November 1586 at Great Berkhampsted, Hertfordshire, England.1 Sir John Savile, 1st Baron Savile of Pomfret left a will on 15 January 1629; Date of his will.1 He left a will on 15 August 1630; Date he signed his will.1 He died on 31 August 1630.1 His estate was probated on 23 February 1631 at York, Yorkshire, England.1
Family Elizabeth Carey
Child
Sir Thomas Savile, 12th Earl of Sussex, Baron & Viscount Savile, Baron of Castlebar+1 b. 14 Sep 1590, d. c 1659
Citations
1.[S11568] The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, by George Edward Cokayne, Vol. XI, p. 459-461.
2.[S11568] The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, by George Edward Cokayne, Vol. XI, p. 457.
3.[S31] Unknown author, Wikipedia.
From: http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p3745.htm#i112485
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John Savile, 1st Baron Savile of Pomfret1
M, #26378, b. 1556, d. 31 August 1630
Last Edited=11 Feb 2012
John Savile, 1st Baron Savile of Pomfret was born in 1556.2 He was the son of Sir Robert Savile and Anne Hussey.2 He married Katherine Willoughby, daughter of Charles Willoughby, 2nd Baron Willoughby of Parham, in February 1546.3 He married, secondly, Elizabeth Cary, daughter of Sir Edward Cary and Katherine Knyvett, on 20 November 1586.4 He died on 31 August 1630.4
Memb Cncl of –30 (V-Pres 1626–28).3 High Steward Honour of Pontefract, Steward Wakefield.3 Thus excluding his eldest (the only one of the two eldest then still living).3 So created (E) with remainder in tail male to his third sons onwards.3 Comptroller Household , Mayor Leeds 1626.3 Knighted by.3 He was County York.3 He gained the title of 1st Baron Savile of Pomfret. He lived Howley.3 He was High Sheriff Lincolnshire , Member of Parliament (M.P.) Lincoln 1586–87 and Yorkshire 1597–98, March 1603/4–11, 1614, Feb 1623/4–25 and Feb 1625/6 circa 1585.3 He was Privy Counsellor (P.C.) in 1626.3
Children of John Savile, 1st Baron Savile of Pomfret and Katherine Willoughby
1.Katherine Savile+1
2.Henry Savile
3.Edward Savile
4.Robert Savile
5.Edmund Savile
6.Elizabeth Savile
7.Frances Savile
Child of John Savile, 1st Baron Savile of Pomfret and Elizabeth Cary
1.Thomas Savile, 1st Earl of Sussex+5 b. 14 Sep 1590, d. c 1659
Citations
1.[S15] George Edward Cokayne, editor, The Complete Baronetage, 5 volumes (no date (c. 1900); reprint, Gloucester, U.K.: Alan Sutton Publishing, 1983), volume II, page 196. Hereinafter cited as The Complete Baronetage.
2.[S6] G.E. Cokayne; with Vicary Gibbs, H.A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, Duncan Warrand and Lord Howard de Walden, editors, The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant, new ed., 13 volumes in 14 (1910-1959; reprint in 6 volumes, Gloucester, U.K.: Alan Sutton Publishing, 2000), volume XI, page 459. Hereinafter cited as The Complete Peerage.
3.[S37] Charles Mosley, editor, Burke's Peerage, Baronetage & Knightage, 107th edition, 3 volumes (Wilmington, Delaware, U.S.A.: Burke's Peerage (Genealogical Books) Ltd, 2003), volume 2, page 2673. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 107th edition.
4.[S37] Charles Mosley, Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 107th edition, volume 1, page 1382.
5.[S6] Cokayne, and others, The Complete Peerage, volume XII/1, page 531.
From: http://www.thepeerage.com/p2638.htm#i26378
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SAVILE, John II (1556-1630), of Doddington, Lincs. and Howley, Yorks.
b. 1556, 1st s. of Sir Robert Savile of Barkston, Lincs. by Anne, da. and coh. of Sir Robert Hussey of Linwood in Blankney, Lincs., wid. of Matthew Thymbleby of Poolam in Edlington, Lincs., half-bro. of Stephen Thymbleby. educ. Trinity Coll. Camb. 1572; L. Inn 1577. m. (1) Catherine, da. of Charles, 2nd Baron Willoughby of Parham, s.p.; (2) 20 Nov. 1586, Elizabeth, da. of Edward Carey, 5s. 3da. suc. fa. 1585. Kntd. by 1597; cr. Baron Savile 1628.1
From: http://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1558-1603/member/savile-john-ii-1556-1630
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Anne HUSSEY
Born: 1516, Linwood, Blankney, Lincolnshire, England
Died: 1562
Father: Robert HUSSEY of Linwood
Mother: Anne SAY
Married 1: Mathew THIMELBY 1536, Blankney, Lincolnshire, England
Married 2: Robert SAVILE (son of Henry Savile and Margaret Barkston)
Children:
1. John SAVILE (m. Elizabeth Carey)
From: http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/HUSSEY.htm#Anne HUSSEY6
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"Savile married, first, Catherine, daughter of Charles, lord Willoughby of Parham, by whom he had no issue..."

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Baron John's 9-generation pedigree ... http://www.ourfamilyhistories.org/ahnentafel.php?personID=I147037&tree=00&parentset=0&generations=9

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Birth:
in Howley, West Riding...

Alt Birth:
Click this link to view York's map and history and in particular a map showing the subdivisions of Northm West & East Riding ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yorkshire#Roman_Yorkshire

John married Katherine Willoughby in 0Feb 1546 in (Yorkshire) England. Katherine (daughter of Sir Charles Willoughby, 2nd Baron Willoughby of Parham and Lady Margaret Clinton) was born in (Parham, Suffolkshire, England). [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

John married Elizabeth Cary on 20 Nov 1586 in (Devonshire) England. Elizabeth (daughter of Sir Edward Cary, MP and Lady Catherine Knevet) was born in 1570 in Cockington, Devon, England; died in Pontefract, Yorkshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Frances Savile
Birthdate: 1604
Birthplace: Pomfert,,Yorkshire,England
Death: Died January 30, 1663 in Pomfert,,Yorkshire,England

Immediate Family:

Daughter of John Savile, 1st Baron Savile of Pontefract and Elizabeth Carey

Wife of Thomas Bradley, II

Mother of Saville X. Bradley; Francis Bradley; Barbars Bradley; John Bradley and Thomas Johannes Bradley, III
Sister of Thomas Saville and Anne Legh (Savile)

Managed by: Gloria Jean Tate
Last Updated: December 7, 2014

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Frances married Reverend Thomas Bradley, II, D. D. on 5 Mar 1631 in All Saints Parish Church, Castleford, West Riding, Yorkshire, England. Thomas was born in 1594 in Pontefract, West Riding, Yorkshire, England; died on 10 Oct 1673 in (Yorkshire) England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Thomas Bradley pedigree ... http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Soc/soc.genealogy.medieval/2007-04/msg00258.html

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Bradley, Thomas, (born 1633) a merchant in Virginia in 1665, eldest son of Thomas Bradley, D. D., chaplain to Charles I., prebend of York, rector of Ackworth, a great royalist and his wife Frances, daughter of Joh Lord Saveille of Pontrefact.

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Birth:
Pontefract is a historic market town in West Yorkshire, England, near the A1 .... In Elizabethan times the castle, and Pontefract itself, was referred to as "Pomfret".

Thomas married Alice Damton in ~1652 in Yorkshire, England. Alice (daughter of John Damton and Elizabeth Carey) was born in 1636 in Broseley, Shropshire, England; died on 30 Jan 1665 in England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

3145.[Elizabeth Bradley], born Abt. 1683; died Unknown.

She was the daughter of 6290. [Thomas Bradley, III] and 6291. ?.

Children of [John] Chisum and [Elizabeth Bradley] are:

[John] Chisum, [II], born Abt. 1704 in St. John's Par., Amelia Co., VA;

died October 09, 1792 in Amelia Co., VA;

married [Ellender Gillington] Abt. 1730 in Amelia Co., VA.
ii.

William Chisum, born in [Amelia Co.], VA; died Unknown.

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Elizabeth Chisum (Bradley)
Birthdate: 1681 (30)
Birthplace: Richmond County, Virginia, Colonial America
Death: Died 1711 in Virginia, Colonial America

Immediate Family:

Daughter of Thomas Johannes Bradley, III and Alice Bradley
Wife of John Chisum, I
Mother of John Chisum, II and William Chisholm
Sister of Lawrence Bradley, I; John Bradley; Thomas Bradley and Mary Bradley
Managed by: Jukka Tapani Salakari
Last Updated: November 27, 2016

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Elizabeth married John Chisum, Sr. in ~1704 in Richmond County, Virginia. John (son of James Chisam, I and Anne Carter) was born in 1681 in Lancaster County, Virginia; died in 1734 in Caroline County, Virginia. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Will: 28 Sep 1792, Amelia County, Virginia
• Probate: 24 Jan 1793, Amelia County, Virginia

Notes:

"In the name of God Amen, I John Chisum of Amelia County being of sound mind and memory do Constitute Make and Ordain this to be my last Will and Testament as follows --

I give and devise to my Son and Law William Pattello and his Heirs forever a Certain trac or parcel of Land bound as follow Beginning at a Path by Jose Hillsmans line thence along the said line to a corner and from thence along the line formly John Hughes Sen then nearly a westerly Course (to) the large county Road thence down the said Road to Elford Booker line to a corner pine on Obadiah Chisum's line from then along the said Chisum's line to the beginning for fifty acres to be the same more or less...

I give and devise unto my loving wife Ellender all my moveable Estate to dispose of as she thinks Proper after my Death.

Lastly I Appoint my Wife Executrix and William Pattello Executers of this my last Will and Testament in Witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and Seal this 28th day of September 1792.


John Chisum seal


Signed Sealed & Published
in presence of us

Blackburn Hughes
Thomas Tabb
David Allen


At a Court held for Amelia County the 24th day of January 1793 the Last Will and Testament of John Chisum dec'd was exhibited into Court and proved by the Oath of Blackburn Hughes one of the witnesses thereto Subscribed and was ordered to be Certified and at another Court held for the said County the 28th February 1793 the same was further proved by the Oath of David Allen another Witness thereto subscribed and was Ordered to be Recorded."

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Birth:
in St. John's Parish...

John married Elleanor Gillentine in 1725-1730 in St. Margaret's Parish, Caroline County, Virginia. Elleanor (daughter of Nicholas Gillentine, The Immigrant and Mary Eleanor Eckolls) was born in ~1716 in King William County, Virginia Colony; died in 0Apr 1804 in Amelia County, Virginia. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alt Death: 1806

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alt Death: 1786, White County, Tennessee

Notes:

11.JAMES5 CHISUM (JOHN4, JOHN3, JAMES2 CHEASM/CHISUM, RICHARD1 CHEESOME/CHISHOLM) was born Abt. 1734 in St. Marg's Par, VA, Caroline Co., USA, and died 1786 in White Co. TN.He married (1) BARBARY ESTES, daughter of THOMAS ESTES.She was born 1732 in Amelia Co. VA.He married (2) UNKNOWN SECOND WIFE.He married (3) BARBARA ROGERS.

Children of JAMES CHISUM and BARBARY ESTES are:

i. JR. JAMES THOMAS6 CHISUM, b. October 16, 1754, ,VA, Amelia Co., USA; d. July 07, 1819, ,KY, Barren Co., USA.
ii. JOHN CHISUM, (BLIND JOHN), b. 1756, ,VA, Amelia Co., USA; d. June 15, 1829, Marion, AL, Perry Co., AL.
iii. ADAM CHISUM, b. 1758, Possibly Amelia Co. VA; d. Abt. 1817, Union Co. SC.
iv. MARTHA (MARGARET) CHISUM, b. Bet. 1761 - 1770; m. ROBERT NEELY, September 30, 1790, Halifax Co. VA; b. Abt. 1767.
v. EDMUND CHISUM, b. 1763, Possibly Amelia Co. VA; m. POLLY CHANDLER, October 20, 1785.
vi. ELLENDER GILLINGTON CHISUM, b. 1773, ,VA, Halifax Co., USA; d. 1855, Montecello, GA, Wilkes Co., USA.

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Birth:
in St. Margaret's Parish...

James married Barbara Estes(Caroline County) Virginia. Barbara (daughter of Thomas Estes and Ann Rogers) was born in ~ 1729 in Caroline County, Virginia; died in Halifax County, Virginia. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: unnamed spouse. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: Barbara Rogers. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Children of ELIZABETH CHISUM and JOHN ESTES are:

i. THOMAS LAFAYETTE6 ESTES, b. 1762, Davidson Co., TN; d. August 1839, Warren Co., KY; m. REBECCA RYAN, 1806, Warren Co., Ky; d. Warren Co. Ky.
26. ii. ABRAHAM ESTES, b. November 01, 1764, Amelia Co. VA; d. May 22, 1844, Lincoln Co. KY.
27. iii. JOHN ESTES, b. 1766, VA; d. December 1825, Callaway Co., MO.
iv. NANCY ESTES, b. 1773, TN or VA; d. Bef. 1820, Franklin Co., ILL; m. JOHN SANDERS, June 1806, Warren Co., Ky.
v. CHISM ESTES, b. April 03, 1774, Halifax Co. Va; d. February 01, 1829, Saline, Co., ILL; m. MARY (POLLY) JORDAN, Bet. 1790 - 1818.
28. vi. MOSES ESTES, b. 1775, VA; d. Bef. November 26, 1815, Wilson Co. TN.
29. vii. WILLIAM ESTES, b. 1779, TN or VA; d. May 01, 1815, Smith Co., TN.
viii. ELIZABETH ESTES, b. 1780, Davidson Co, TN; d. 1854, Anderson Co., TX; m. JOSEPH JORDAN, December 19, 1796, Warren Co., Ky; d. Anderson Co., TX.
30. ix. ABSALOM ESTES, b. 1781; d. February 07, 1839, Jefferson Co, ILL.
x. ELIJAH ESTES, b. Abt. 1782, TN or VA.
xi. JOSEPH ESTES, b. Bet. 1784 - 1790, Davidson Co., TN; d. February 27, 1846, Jefferson Co, ILL; m. KITTY OR RITTA LEE, Bet. 1807 - 1835.

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Elizabeth Estes formerly Chisum
Born about 1736 in Caroline Co., VAmap
ANCESTORS ancestors
Daughter of John Chisum II and Eleanor (Girlington) Chisum
Sister of Isam Chisum, Chloe (Chisum) May, Anna (Chisum) May, Priscilla (Chisum) Hill, Sarah (Chisum) Pattillo, Deborah Chisum [half], Joseph Chisum [half], William Chisum [half], John Chisum, James Chisum, Absolom Chisum, Obadiah Chisum, Adam Chisum, Elijah James Chisum and Obadiah Chisum
Wife of John Estes — married 1763 in Amelia Co, Virginiamap
DESCENDANTS descendants
Mother of Abraham Estes, Moses Estes, Chisum Estes, Elijah Estes, John Estes, Absolam Estes, William Estes, Nancy (Estes) Saunders, Elizabeth (Estes) Jordan, Thomas Lafayette Estes and Joseph Estes
Died 1796 in Logan Co., KYmap
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Biography

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Elizabeth married John Estes in 1763 in Amelia County, Virginia Colony. John (son of Moses Estes and Elizabeth Jones) was born in 1732 in Lunenburg County, Virginia, British Colonies of North America; died on 4 Oct 1825 in Warren County, Kentucky. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Religion: Primitive Baptist
• Military: Revolutionary War Patriot
• Probate: 17 Apr 1819, White County, Tennessee

Notes:

Revolutionary Patriot...Lynn

White County,Tennessee Deed Abstracts:1801-1820, abstracted by Joyne Martin Murray, p. 118;

"Volume F Page 332 Indenture 18 Jan 1819 JAMES CHISUM, Overton Co.,TN, and JOHN CHISUM, White County, Exrs last will & Tes of ELIJAH CHISUM, Senr, one part and JOHN RUTLEDGE, other part, $2500 paid, secured by note, tr on Calf Killers fork of Caney fork, including late residence of sd Elijah, Decd, being part of 450 acre tr granted by TN to sd Elijah, Patent No 1858, 300 acres, reversing space for graves of late proprietors."

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Served as a captain under John Sevier in the Etowah Campaign against the Cherokee Indians.

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Member of the Tennessee Legislature, 3rd General Assembly, 1799-1801, representing Grainger County. House, 6th General Assembly, 1805-1807, representing Sumner County.

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This Elijah Chisum was the son of John Chisum and Elender Gullotine/Eleanor Gillington. He was descended from the Richard Chisholm who was born in 1613 in London, England, and was the first Chisholm to arrive in the colonies.

Elijah married Lucy Claiborne in about 1772. They had at least five children: James, John, William, Elizabeth, and Malinda Chisum. According to the Biographical Directory of the Tennessee General Assembly, Vol. 1, 1796-1861, by Robert McBride and Dan Robison (Tennessee State Library and Archives, 1975), Elijah was a pioneer farmer who owned much land and many slaves. He was a captain in the Revolutionary War and received a North Carolina Certificate which he exchanged for land.

He appears to have come first to Tennessee to Hawkins County, where he was commissioned a Justice of the Peace on 03 Nov 1790 by territorial Governor William Blount. On 10 Jun 1791, he was commissioned by Governor Blount as Captain in the Hawkins County Militia Regiment. He was a delegate from Hawkins County to the North Carolina Constitutional Convention of 1789 called to ratify the United States Constitution. Chisholm's Ford in Hawkins County was named for him.

He was active in the establishment of Grainger County in 1796, and he represented that county in the Tennessee House 3rd General Assembly from 1799 to 1801. From 1805 to 1807 he represented Sumner County in the Tennessee House 6th General Assembly but also represented Jackson, Smith, and Wilson Counties which did not have direct representation at that time. At the time of his death he lived near Sparta, White County, Tennessee.

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Religion:
Primitive Baptists, are also known as Hard Shell Baptists, Anti-Mission Baptists, or Old School Baptists. The adjective "Primitive" in the name has the sense of "original".

He was a member of the Big Spring Primitive Baptist Church...

He & Lucy joined the Spring Creek Baptist Church, Jackson County, Tennessee, June 15, 1804

Elijah married Mary Lucinda Herbert "Lucy" Claiborne in 1773 in Amelia County, Virginia. Mary (daughter of Richard Claiborne and Mary Hamlin) was born on 22 Aug 1760 in Amelia County, Virginia; died in 0Oct 1818 in Sparta, White County, Tennessee; was buried in Walker Cemetery, Sparta, White County, Tennessee. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Chloe married John May in 0May 1777. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: Ambrose May. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Obediah married Mary Ann Cardwell in 1789. Mary (daughter of Richard A. Cardwell and Susanna Perrin) was born in 0___ 1767; died in 0___ 1811. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alt Birth: 1756

Sarah married William M. Patillo before 28 Sep 1792 in (Virginia). William was born in (CIRCA 1750) in (Virginia). [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Military: Revolutionary War Patriot

Notes:

So named as he lost his eyesight during the Revolution... http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/c/h/i/Michael-Chism/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-0584.html

http://www.tngenweb.org/revwar/counties/white.htm

SC Line, sol's only heir, Nancy FISHER stated 5 Sep 1855 that he died 15 Jun 1829 in AL leaving a widow Sarah who d 30 Aug 1848 in White Co, TN. He and wife had 7 children, to wit: Nancy FISHER, John, Chisam [sic], Rachel RIDDLES, Polly PULLEN, Betsy BURNSIDES, Sarah CHISAM & Frances HATELY & all were dec'd in 1855 except Nancy FISHER. He and wife had married in Spartansburg Dist, SC in 1774. A Mary CHISAM stated in Aug 1855 that she was a widow of one of his sons & that she drew a pension as only heir of Jonathan & Margaret HARRIS. (RW Pension File R1932) See also RW Jonathan HARRIS below.

- "Abstracts of Rev. War Pension Files", p. 625, provided by Woodrow Barnes & Family.

"CHISAM, John, Sarah, R1932, SC Line, sol's only heir Nancy Fisher stated 5 Sep 1855 that sold 15 Jun 1829 in AL leaving a widow Sarah who died 30 Aug 1848 in White Cty TN, sol & wife had 7 children, to wit;

Nancy Fisher,
John Chisam,
Rachel Riddles,
Polly Pullen,
Betsy Burnsides,
Sarah Chisam &
Frances Hatley,

all were dec'd in 1855 except Nancy Fisher, sol & wife m in Spartanburg Dist SC in 1774,a Mary Chisam stated in Aug 1855 that she was a widow of one of sol's sons & that she drew a pension as only heir of Jonathan & Margaret Hanis."


16 Jun 2007

http://genforum.genealogy.com/harris/messages/10166.html

Re: HARRIS/MIDDLETON/ORSO Washington Co.,MS
Posted by: Audrey Young Date: March 13, 2001 at 05:57:05
In Reply to: Re: HARRIS/MIDDLETON/ORSO Washington Co.,MS by Nancy Benson of 20799


John Chisholm was the oldest son of David and Ann Chisholm and was born about 1730 in Hanover Co. VA. His marriage to Sarah Harris produced 12 Chism children: William, Rachel, Polly, "Hickory John", Betsy, Elisha, Elijah, Gatewood, Frances, Sarah, Nancy, James. I didn't realize I mistyped the date their son William Chisholm married Ann Praytor about 1793 -- not 1703. I'm still looking for parents of Sarah Harris and of Mary Middleton, who married 1760 William Praytor in SC. Does your line connect to these family surnames? Audrey

More...Slate of issue: http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/c/h/i/Michael-Chism/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-0584.html


Posted By: William Chisholm; chishwl@otelco.net
Email: chishwl@otelco.net
Subject: "Blind John" Chisholm/Chisum/etc--"New Information"
Post Date: February 10, 2008 at 09:56:58
Message URL: http://genforum.genealogy.com/chisholm/messages/1661.html
Forum: Chisholm Family Genealogy Forum
Forum URL: http://genforum.genealogy.com/chisholm/


Recently, while tracking down one of the many Johns, I ran across the following information in the records of Madison Co, AL.

Letters of Administration for the estate of one John Chisolm were issued to a Lazarus Vann on 8/16/1830. These letters were issued with the consent of the widow, Sarah. John died intestate.

Filtering thru the notes and letters, I found the heirs to be: Sarah (widow), John Chisolm Jr., William Chisolm Sr, Isham Pullen, Alfred Marrow, Andrew Burnside, and Nancy Fisher. Nancy Fisher, and John Chisum had a letter written from White Co, Tn to the judge of probate requesting that slaves Hannah (old woman) and Dolly (girl), part of the estate of John Chisolm, be sold and the proceeds of the sale be divided among the heirs.

A LeRoy Chisum, who apparently lived in Madison Co, Al attached his concurrence. (Sarah, Nancy, and LeRoy can not write). LeRoy's concurrence is dated April or Aug. 18, 1832. One William L. Chisam charged the estate 2.00 for bringing the slaves to Huntsville on 7/2/1832. Around this time, Sarah, the widow, had a letter written to the judge of probate asking that the judge provide her with the status of the settlement of the estate, stating that she had not received a single penny from the estate of her husband and that she had sent a letter to the administrator but not heard from him. She also stated that her husband had promised that she would be able to keep the slaves to "wate" on her during her old age.

Soon after the letter was received, the judge ordered the sherriff to have Mr Van bring all records of the estate to court. No mention of the disposition or fate of Mr Vann is mentioned. I recoginized this John to be "Blind John" because several years ago I had read of his daughter's troubles in applying for his Revoloutionary War Pension.

"Blind John" is listed, in most accounts, as having died in Perry Co, AL but it is apparent he died in Madison Co, AL It could be that he was a resident of Perry Co and happened to die in Madison Co. That may be why $2.00 was charged to bring the slaves to Huntsville. No records I have seen show the first names of John's son in laws, Burnside and Pullen. I think this record in Madison Co makes those name clear. Alfred Marrow may be another son in law.

The file in Madison Co, AL has the estate sale, listing all property sold and to whom. There are also several slips of paper where Mr Vann made charges to the estate for "services" and one page which was faded and unreadable.

There was no charge for transportation of the body so I assume John was buried in Madison Co or someone transported his body free of charge to "wherever". There is a charge of $2.00 for a casket.

Hope this is helpful to you "Blind John" folks. BTW the spelling of the name Chisolm is all over the lot. Chisolm,Chisum,Chism,Chisam,etc. Seems that none could read or write.

W.L. Chisholm

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I have a tree at ancestry.com. Here is the link:

My Grandmother was Clara Emmalynn Chisam from her you can follow the Chisam line to Overton (and his brothers) and beyond. As you will see in the tree,Overton, John and Preston Chisam (all brothers) married the three Hash sisters Celia, Matilda and Cynthia respectively.

I have been told by other researchers that at the time the two families properties were adjacent to each other.

There has been some controversy over the lineage of John “Blind John” Chisholm. Some say he descended from David and Adam Chisholm but that is another John Chisholm. There were so many John Chisholm’s that it is easy to muddle the lines. I’m certain of my research with Richard Cheesome (various spellings) being the patriarch of my clan lineage.

If for any reason this doesn’t give you the information you seek then let me know.

I have seen the sight you referenced and it looks like an old email of mine is with Mary Elizabeth Spencer. My Hennessee/Spencer line is also detailed in my tree with Mary Spencer marrying James Walker (in Georgia) and I have lots of other Walkers as well.

Happy New Year to you too!

Julia Bond

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Letters of Administration for the estate of one John Chisolm were issued to a Lazarus Vann on 8/16/1830. These letters were issued with the consent of the widow, Sarah. John died intestate. Filtering thru the notes and letters, I found the heirs to be: Sarah (widow), John Chisolm Jr., William Chisolm Sr, Isham Pullen (son-in-law?), Alfred Marrow (son-in-law?), Andrew Burnside (son-in-law?), and Nancy Fisher.

Nancy Fisher, and John Chisum had a letter written from White Co, Tn to the judge of probate requesting that slaves Hannah (old woman) and Dolly (girl), part of the estate of John Chisolm, be sold and the proceeds of the sale be divided among the heirs.

A LeRoy Chisum, who apparently lived in Madison Co, AL attached his concurrence. (Sarah, Nancy, and LeRoy can not write). LeRoy's concurrence is dated April or Aug. 18, 1832.

One William L. Chisam charged the estate 2.00 for bringing the slaves to Huntsville on 7/2/1832.

Around this time, Sarah, the widow, had a letter written to the judge of probate asking that the judge provide her with the status of the settlement of the estate, stating that she had not received a single penny from the estate of her husband and that she had sent a letter to the administrator but not heard from him. She also stated that her husband had promised that she would be able to keep the slaves to "wate" on her during her old age. Soon after the letter was received, the judge ordered the sheriff to have Mr Van bring all records of the estate to court. No mention of the disposition or fate of Mr Vann is mentioned.

This John is believed to be "Blind John" because whose daughter had troubles in applying for his Revolutionary War Pension.

" Blind John" is listed, in most accounts, as having died in Perry Co, AL but it is apparent he died in Madison Co, AL It could be that he was a resident of Perry Co and happened to die in Madison Co. That may be why $2.00 was charged to bring the slaves to Huntsville.

The file in Madison Co, AL has the estate sale, listing all property sold and to whom. There are also several slips of paper where Mr Vann made charges to the estate for "services" and one page is faded and unreadable.

There was no charge for transportation of the body so probably John was buried in Madison Co or someone transported his body free of charge to "wherever." There is a charge of $2.00 for a casket.

Hope this is helpful to you "Blind John" folks. BTW the spelling of the name Chisolm is all over the lot. Chisolm,Chisum,Chism,Chisam,etc. Seems that none could read or write. .

Research by: W.L. Chisholm and posted on ancestry.com message board 10 Feb 2008 6:00PM GMT

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Died:
intestate...

John married Sarah Harris in 1774 in Tryon, Polk County, North Carolina. Sarah was born in 1756 in York County, South Carolina; died on 30 Aug 1848 in Sparta, White County, Tennessee. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Martha married Robert Neely on 30 Sep 1790 in Halifax County, Virginia. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Edmund married Polly Chandler on 20 Oct 1785. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Thomas married Rebecca Ryan in 1806 in Warren County, Kentucky. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alt Birth: ~1782

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alt Death: Bef 1820, Franklin County, Illinois

Family/Spouse: John Saunders. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

The oldest son born to Moses and Elizabeth may have been John, born between their marriage and 1742, or so.

We don’t know the year for sure, but what we do know is that John’s eldest son, Abraham, born in 1764, gave the following testimony when applying for a Revolutionary War pension.

"I, Abraham was born in Amelia County, Virginia. My father moved from there to Halifax, Va. where he lived until the fall of 1779, where he moved to the Holston River until 1780."

After that they removed to Warren Co., Ky.

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alt Birth: 1776
• Alt Death: 0Dec 1825, Calloway County, Missouri

Elizabeth married Joseph Jordan on 19 Dec 1796 in Warren County, Kentucky. Joseph died in Anderson County, Texas. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Will: Smith County, Tennessee
• Alt Birth: ~1780, Virginia

Notes:

William Estes
Born about Aug 1779 in Halifax Co, Virginia
ANCESTORS ancestors
Son of John Estes and Elizabeth (Chisum) Estes
Brother of Abraham Estes, Chisum Estes, Moses Estes, Elijah Estes, John Estes, Absolam Estes, Nancy (Estes) Saunders, Elizabeth (Estes) Jordan, Thomas Lafayette Estes and Joseph Estes
Husband of Elizabeth Whitesides — married 15 Mar 1800 in Warren Co., KY
[children unknown]
Died 1 May 1815 in Smith Co., TN

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William married Elizabeth Whitesides on 15 Mar 1800 in Warren County, Kentucky. Elizabeth was born in Virginia. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Joseph married Kitty Lee in 1807-1835. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Occupation: Surveyor
• Military: War of 1812

Notes:

Descendants of James Chisum

Generation No. 5


6. JAMES STEWART5 CHISUM (ELIJAH4, JOHN3, JOHN2, JAMES1) was born November 26, 1774 in VA, Halifax Co., USA, and died in TN, Hardeman Co., USA. He married ELIZABETH GIBBONS January 26, 1794 in TN, Hawkins, USA,, daughter of THOMAS GIBBONS and ANN EPPES. She was born November 12, 1774 in Surrey Co., Virginia/Albemarle Parish, VA, and died August 04, 1851 in TN, Hardeman Co., USA..

Notes for JAMES STEWART CHISUM:

On 1 Aug 1795 James was commissioned Lieutenant in Hawkins Co. Militia by Territorial Gov. William Blount. On 16 Jun 1800 he was commissioned Capt. in Grainger Co. Militia Reg and was living in Claiborne Co. at its organization in 1801, where he was a member of the Co. Court. James and Elijah Chisum removed to Middle Dist. of Tenn in 1801 after Elijah purchased 3000 acres of land. By 1809 James was in White Co. and was a recognized surveyor of Tenn. lands.

James Chisholm of Hawkins Co. TN; he served in the War of 1812, after which he was known as Major Chisholm; he represented Overton Co. in the State Senate of Tennessee, 1820-1823; He entered service 8 Oct 1811 as a private under Capt. Abel Willis Co, Col. Thomas McCorory's Reg. West Tenn Militia.

He transferred 17 Oct 1813 to Capt. William Russell's Co., Mounted Spies; served to 4 Apr 1814, residence at that time was Monroe Co.

The Mallary book says of James: "James remained in Overton Co., TN where he became the founder and trustee with Moses Fiske of the Fiske Female Academy (the first girls' school in the territory south of the Ohio River) . From 1819 to the time they moved to Hardeman Co., TN, he was a member of the Tenn. Assembly or Legislature. The whole family was well educated and interested in helping others to get an education.

From 1821 to 1825 James represented Overton, Jackson and White Counties in the 14th and 15th General Assemblies of the Tenn. State Senate.

In 1823 He came to Hardeman Co. and settled on land on Clover Creek near Cloverport. He was a Major of the Militia of Hardeman County. His home Place was owned by his son-in-law Robert Hicks Vernon and was known as the "Old Vernon place". On it is an old cemetery in which lie James Chisum and his wife and beside them lie Robert H. Vernon and his wife Nancy . Major James Chisum died intestate in 1834 and his wife Elizabeth died in 18 51.

They had ten children.

Besides a large plantation in Hardeman Co., TN, he owned a lumber mill, several farms as well as seventeen slaves. He died in Bolivar, TN in 1835.

Found in Hardeman Co., TN, 21 July 1837 is the following in Deed Bk . E, p.287: Claiborne Chisum, Thomas G. Chisum, John Johnson and wife Polly, Walter Robinson and wife Rebecca, Andrew Turner and wife Levina, Jonah Robinson and wife Elizabeth, to Robert H. Vernon (Husband of Nancy Epps Chisum) claim they may be entitled at death of Elizabeth Chisum, widow of James, in dower.

6 June 1836, James S. Chisum sells to George Overton, land in 10th Dist. R#, Sec. 6, 268 1/2 acres.

21 Sept. 1836, Hardeman Co., TN is settlement with Robert H. Vernon , administrator of the estate of James S. Chisum.

He became an extensive dealer in lands in Western Tennessee; he died in 1835 at his home in Hardeman Co.

Issue: Mary, Claiborne (father of John S . Chisholm,"cattle King" of the 1870's, for whom the Chisholm Trail was named), Lucinda, Rebecca, Nancy Eppes, Thomas G., Levina, James S., Elizabeth, and John G. Chisholm, and in 1840, they removed with their family to what is now Lamar Co. Texas.

Their daughter Sarah was twice married:
1.Benjamin Turner. 2. Dr. Henry G. McDonald. Of the first marriage was born John Benjamin Turner, father of the compiler of this material. Of the second marriage, a son, William J. Mc Donald, was born 21 Dec. 1844; he never married and, at his death in 1926, he left the bulk of his fortune to the University of Texas for the purpose of building an astronomical observatory. The observatory, built on Mt. Locke, was completed in 1939 and has the second telescope in size in this country.

James was appointed as Justice of the Peace of the newly formed Claiborne Co., TN in 1801; he was 27 years old. He, along with his father Elijah and brother John, formed the Chisum Land Company in Overton Co., TN. It is said they were quite wealthy.


Maude Pirtle Taylor Notes:
Major James Chisum removed with his father's family from Virginia to NC, and resided in the District of Washington and Sullivan Counties, which was included in the South West Territory in 1789. They were living in that part of Sullivan that became Hawkins Co., NC in 1786. Thomas Gibbons family also lived in the same district during the Rev. War. James Chisum was a surveyor by profession, and many deeds of East, and also West TN, bear his signature; also early town-sites plats, and county boundaries, maps, etc.

He served also as Capt., and later, Major of the Hardeman Co. Militia.

Received from M. Louise (Click) McPherson, date of birth to be 26 Nov 1774 instead of Jan.

1835 Adam Ross Simonton of Iredell Co., NC power of atty to James S . Chisum to sell land allotted to Wife, Jane, one of the Legatees of Washington Byers, Dec'd Hardeman Co., Deeds E, 8

More About JAMES STEWART CHISUM:
Burried: Chisum Homeplace, TN, Cloversport, USA
Fact 5: October 01, 1998

Notes for ELIZABETH GIBBONS:
Source Hardeman Co. TN Probates Wills 1845-1901
Spelling and punctuation as written

Last Will and Testament of Elizabeth Chisum

I Elizabeth Chisum (widow of James) of Hardeman County of State of Tennessee do make and publish this my last will and testament hereby revoking all wills by me heretofore made.

lst I give to my beloved son John G. my Bureau Table Cupboard cooking utensils knives forks and spoons.

2nd I give to my beloved daughters to wit Rebecca Robinson Nancy Vernon Livinia Turner and Elizabeth my beds bedstids and clothing to be equally divided between them.

3rd I give to my sons Claiborne and Thomas and my daughters Polly Johnson and the heirs of Lucy Hill one dollar each.

4th In consideration of my son John being youngest and not to well provided for (in?) land as the balance I give unto him my Negroes Jacob Dinah Siller Elridge Sam and Emily them and their increase all my money notes and accounts stock in fact everything I may leave I give to my son John except the gift above mentioned to my four daughters.

Lastly I hereby constitute and appoint my son John executor to this my last will and testament in testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed my seal 24th July 1844.

Elizabeth Chisum (Seal)

Signed sealed and published in our presence and we have subscribed our names hereto in the presence of the testator the day and date above written.

John Caldwell Inv.t (?)
James Toone Inv.t (?)

State of Tennessee County Court August....? 1851 Hardeman County was this the sithin?, last will and testament of Elizabeth Chisum produced in open court and duly proven by the oaths of James Toone and John Caldwell the two subscribing witnesses to the same and ordered by t he court to be recorded and filed 4th Aug. 1851.
R.P. Neely Clk
L.B. Adam Dle# (3)

Elizabeth (Betsy) Gibbons, daughter of Thomas Gibbons and his wife , Anne Eppes. James and Elizabeth were married in Hawkins Co., TN. 2 6 Jan 1794.

More About ELIZABETH GIBBONS:
Burried: Hardeman Co., Tennessee

Children of JAMES CHISUM and ELIZABETH GIBBONS are:

9. i. LAVINIA6 CHISUM, b. February 10, 1808, TN, Claiborne Co., USA; d. Aft. 1874.
10. ii. MARY ANN CHISUM, b. March 06, 1795, TN, Hawkins Co., USA; d. March 24, 1853, Paris, TX, Lamar Co., USA.
11. iii. LUCINDA CHISUM, b. January 16, 1800, TN, Grainger Co., USA; d. Abt. 1834.
12. iv. THOMAS GIBBONS CHISUM, b. March 20, 1806, TN, Claiborne Co., USA; d. February 27, 1855.
v. JAMES SIMPSON CHISUM, b. January 29, 1810, TN, White Co., USA; d. Bef. December 20, 1884, Hardeman Co., TN.
Notes for JAMES SIMPSON CHISUM:
James never Married, died intestate in Hardeman Co., TN.
13. vi. ELIZABETH CHISUM, b. August 27, 1812, TN, White Co., USA; d. March 06, 1893, TN, Hardeman Co., USA..
14. vii. JOHN GIBBONS CHISUM, b. December 14, 1818, TN, White Co., USA; d. August 31, 1905, TN, Tipton Co., USA.
15. viii. CLAIRBORN CHISUM, b. June 22, 1797, TN, Grainger Co., USA; d. October 21, 1857, Paris, TX, Lamar Co., USA.
16. ix. REBECCA B. CHISUM, b. January 31, 1802, Claiborne, TN; d. TN, Hardeman Co., USA.
17. x. NANCY EPPES CHISUM, b. February 04, 1804, TN, Claiborne Co., USA; d. October 05, 1844, TN, Hardeman Co., USA.

James married Elizabeth Gibbons on 26 Jan 1794 in Hawkins County, Tennessee. Elizabeth (daughter of Thomas Gibbons and Ann Eppes) was born on 12 Nov 1774 in Albermarle County, Virginia; died in 1857. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Buried:
Burial:
Unknown
Specifically: in an unknown Tennessee location

Family/Spouse: Mary Ann Armstrong. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

William married Nancy ArmstrongHawkins County, Tennessee. Nancy was born in 0___ 1782 in Hawkins County, Tennessee. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Mentioned as a member of "Baptist Church of Christ on Hickory Creek"; August of 1818 and in November of 1828.

Buried:
on the Lacy Willis Farm... This should probably read, "The Laban Willis Dodson Farm"...DAH

Elizabeth married Nimrod H. "Tip" Dodson, Sr. on 21 Oct 1797 in Grainger County, Tennessee. Nimrod (son of Elder Jesse Buford Dodson, Sr. and Ruth Dodson) was born in ~1775 in Fauquier County, Virginia; died on 18 Jan 1837 in Viola, Warren County, Tennessee. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Hello again David,

The order of wives Grace Green had in the doc "Epps Allied Families and Descendants" I sent to you was wrong. I recently found the attached document "Minutes of Spring Creek Baptist Church of Jackson and Overton Counties" in FamilySearch archives that shows Thomas and Mary (“Polly” Hill) Gibbons along with Elijah Chisum and Lucy (Claiborne) Chisum joined the Spring Creek Baptist Church on June 15, 1804.

September first Saturday 1814 was the last mention of Mary Gibbons (roster). She died about 1818.

September the fourth Saturday 1825 is the first mention of Elizabeth (Hampton) Gibbons when Thomas and Elizabeth were dismissed from the church by letter, transferring to another church. Estimates are Thomas and Elizabeth married around 1820.

I've found the marriage date to Malinda Chisum varies a lot, but the majority state 1797, and their only child Elijah Gibbons born 1798. My guess is she died in childbirth.

Thomas made two humble recantations for being drunk, was made a deacon and served several other functions, then was excommunicated for leaving the church (his wife was still attending according to the roster), then he was reinstated and later appointed deacon again. These are only partial minutes from the church. Would love to know the full story of his life. He seemed to be quite a character.

There is an index at the end, but you will notice either the typist or the original often left off the "s" at the end of Gibbons.

I insist on doing my own research and not simply accepting what everyone else posts on Ancestry and certainly not in the FamilySearch trees, but sometimes, or many times, that research is revised due to new findings. I love "digging for the truth"

Another one of my cousins is the librarian for the Johnson-Johnston-Johnstone DNA Library that includes the Dodson family. He found the following reference I found interesting:

"I borrowed my brother James pony and rode forty miles to Uncle Thomas Gibbons, there being no Baptist Church nearer. He and Aunt Polly were members, father was there at the church meeting on Saturday, when the door was opened for anyone to come forward and join by telling an experience of grace. I went forward immediately. The going forward was such a cross that I hardley knew what I was doing. I told what I had to tell. Only one question was asked me by Nimrod Dodson, who was a leading member of the church namely, Did you ever see that it was just in God to send you to hell? I answered yes for I knew it would not do to say no, although I knew at the time I had not any extraordinary view."

SOURCE: Abner Hills autobiography that appeared in Judge Joe Meridith Hills family book called "A Family History of Hill, Meredith, Liwery 1966."

Researchers Notes This is the Hill- Shropshire- Johnson families of Bartons Creek Dickson County, TN. Interesting Abner Hill's uncle is Thomas Gibbons in the Church of Nimrod Dodson (Pittsylvania Co., Va to Hawkins Co., Tn.)

Hope all is well with you and yours,

Kathy Chambers

Malinda married Thomas Gibbons, Jr. in ~ 1797 in (Overton County, Tennessee). [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Witnessed a deed transaction in White Co., TN, by his brother, James, 18 Sep 1817.

Died:
before his father...

Elijah married Margaret Hill in ~ 1804 in Claiborne County, Tennessee. Margaret was born in 0___ 1784 in Virginia; died in 0___ 1811 in White County, Tennessee; was buried in Plum Creek Cemetery, White County, Tennessee. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Military: War of 1812

Notes:

Birth: Jan. 29, 1796
Death: Mar. 31, 1872

Died at his residence in Nashville, Tennessee, Sunday morning, March 31, 1872 after a brief illness of Pneumonia, Mr. Gillington Chisholm in the 77th year of his age.

The subject of this notice was born in Kentucky in 1796. He served under Jackson in the War of 1812 and came to Tuscumbia in 1819 and it is said built the first frame house ever erected in this place. He remained in this vicinity until Dec. 1870, when he removed to Nashville, Tenn. Thus has parted from our midst one of the oldest and most respected citizens of this Valley. -- For fifty years he lived an exemplary Christian life, honored and respected by all who knew him. He lived a life of usefulness and in him were exemplified all the Christian graces, and when called by our Father from this transitory sphere, he answered the summons to "cross the River" , remained(?) contented and strong in the blessed faith which had supported him through sunshine and shadow for so many years. He was buried by the side of his father in Franklin, Tenn.

Taken from the "North Alabamian Times" (?), April 14, 1872
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Died near Franklin College Davidson Co. Tenn. March 31st 1872 at the residence of Dr. L. C. Chisholm, Gillington Chisholm, aged seventy-six years one month and nine days. The deceased was born in Barren County Kentucky July 29th, 1796, in 1817 married in White County Tennessee, and in 1819 moved to North Alabama near Tuscumbia, in which section he lived till Oct. 15th 1870, when he moved to the place of his decease to live with his son. His Christian character and virtues are too well known to his acquaintances to be recounted here. He lived a consistent Christian life a full half century, batting against persecution and misrepresentation of his religious faith to the close of his life. His confidence in the Christian's hope grew stronger as he neared the grave. In his last hours he said to his children not to be alarmed for him, - his hour to depart drew near - his work was done - death had no terror whatever - it would bring sweet repose from the trials of life - a peaceful rest till the resurrection morn - desired to enter into that rest with the faithful who had gone before him. Spoke of the late Dr. Wm. H. Wharton who baptized him into Christ, and through whose instrumentality under God he was led to appreciate the power of the gospel and its glorious promises - desired to be at rest with him. He leaves behind a faithful wife of fifty-five years - children and grand-children to battle on through the storms of life, and strive to reach that haven of rest in reserve for the faithful. Truly the end of the righteous is peace.

C. L. Chisholm, Gospel Advocate, May 9, 1872, page 454.


Family links:
Children:
Lewis Clark Chisholm (1822 - 1913)*
Elizabeth Chisholm Hamilton (1834 - 1922)*
Mary Ann Chisholm Fuqua (1838 - 1900)*

*Calculated relationship

Burial:
Chisholm Cemetery SW 60
Schweizer
Simpson County
Kentucky, USA

Maintained by: Walter Chisholm
Originally Created by: Michael Gann
Record added: Feb 11, 2010
Find A Grave Memorial# 47993358

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Gillington married Cynthia Hill in 1817 in White County, Tennessee. Cynthia (daughter of Thomas Smithers Hill and Catherine Shropshire) was born on 4 Dec 1799 in Greene County, Georgia; died in 1877. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: FNU Riddles. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: FNU Pullen. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alt Birth: 30 Nov 1779, Spartanburg County, South Carolina

Notes:

Birth: Nov. 30, 1779
Spartanburg County
South Carolina, USA
Death: 1855
White County
Tennessee, USA


Family links:
Spouse:
Mary Ann Harris Chisam (1782 - 1891)

Children:
Overton D Chisam (1811 - 1883)*
John H. Chisam (1816 - 1863)*
William M Chisam (1822 - 1905)*

*Calculated relationship

Burial:
Chisam Cemetery
White County
Tennessee, USA

Created by: Graveyard Shift
Record added: Apr 20, 2010
Find A Grave Memorial# 51411260

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John married Mary Ann "Polly" Harris in 1804 in Spartanburg County, South Carolina. Mary (daughter of Jonathan Harris and Margarette Patterson) was born on 23 Feb 1782 in Virginia; died on 22 Aug 1869 in White County, Tennessee; was buried in Chisam Cemetery, White County, Tennessee. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: FNU Burnsides. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: FNU Hately. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Nancy Chisam Fisher
BIRTH 1790
South Carolina, USA
DEATH Dec 1858 (aged 67–68)
White County, Tennessee, USA
BURIAL
Fisher Cemetery
DeKalb County, Tennessee, USA
MEMORIAL ID 83336907 · View Source: Created by: Jeannine Rickard
Added: 12 Jan 2012

Nancy Chisam Fisher was the daughter of John Chisam, a Revolutionary War soldier. She married William Fisher on April 2, 1807, in Rutherford County, North Carolina.

Family Members
Spouse
William Fisher
1783–1831 (m. 1807)

Children
Melissa Fisher Moore*
1808–1876

Photo
John Fisher*
1811–1878

Elizabeth Fisher UpChurch*
1813 – unknown

Photo
Ambrose Fisher*
1823–1878

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Posted By: William Chisholm
Email: chishwl@otelco.net
Subject: "Blind John" Chisholm/Chisum/etc--"New Information"
Post Date: February 10, 2008 at 09:56:58
Message URL: http://genforum.genealogy.com/chisholm/messages/1661.html
Forum: Chisholm Family Genealogy Forum
Forum URL: http://genforum.genealogy.com/chisholm/


Recently, while tracking down one of the many Johns, I ran across the following information in the records of Madison Co, AL.

Letters of Administration for the estate of one John Chisolm were issued to a Lazarus Vann on 8/16/1830. These letters were issued with the consent of the widow, Sarah. John died intestate. Filtering thru the notes and letters, I found the heirs to be: Sarah (widow), John Chisolm Jr., William Chisolm Sr, Isham Pullen, Alfred Marrow, Andrew Burnside, and Nancy Fisher. Nancy Fisher, and John Chisum had a letter written from White Co, Tn to the judge of probate requesting that slaves Hannah (old woman) and Dolly (girl), part of the estate of John Chisolm, be sold and the proceeds of the sale be divided among the heirs. A LeRoy Chisum, who apparently lived in Madison Co, Al attached his concurrence. (Sarah, Nancy, and LeRoy can not write). LeRoy's concurrence is dated April or Aug. 18, 1832. One William L. Chisam charged the estate 2.00 for bringing the slaves to Huntsville on 7/2/1832. Around this time, Sarah, the widow, had a letter written to the judge of probate asking that the judge provide her with the status of the settlement of the estate, stating that she had not received a single penny from the estate of her husband and that she had sent a letter to the administrator but not heard from him. She also stated that her husband had promised that she would be able to keep the slaves to "wate" on her during her old age. Soon after the letter was received, the judge ordered the sherriff to have Mr Van bring all records of the estate to court. No mention of the disposition or fate of Mr Vann is mentioned. I recoginized this John to be "Blind John" because several years ago I had read of his daughter's troubles in applying for his Revoloutionary War Pension.

"Blind John" is listed, in most accounts, as having died in Perry Co, AL but it is apparent he died in Madison Co, AL It could be that he was a resident of Perry Co and happened to die in Madison Co. That may be why $2.00 was charged to bring the slaves to Huntsville. No records I have seen show the first names of John's son in laws, Burnside and Pullen. I think this record in Madison Co makes those name clear. Alfred Marrow may be another son in law.

The file in Madison Co, AL has the estate sale, listing all property sold and to whom. There are also several slips of paper where Mr Vann made charges to the estate for "services" and one page which was faded and unreadable.

There was no charge for transportation of the body so I assume John was buried in Madison Co or someone transported his body free of charge to "wherever". There is a charge of $2.00 for a casket.
Hope this is helpful to you "Blind John" folks. BTW the spelling of the name Chisolm is all over the lot. Chisolm,Chisum,Chism,Chisam,etc. Seems that none could read or write.

W.L. Chisholm

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SC Line, sol's only heir, Nancy FISHER stated 5 Sep 1855 that he died 15 Jun 1829 in AL leaving a widow Sarah who d 30 Aug 1848 in White Co, TN. He and wife had 7 children, to wit: Nancy FISHER, John, Chisam [sic], Rachel RIDDLES, Polly PULLEN, Betsy BURNSIDES, Sarah CHISAM & Frances HATELY & all were dec'd in 1855 except Nancy FISHER. He and wife had married in Spartansburg Dist, SC in 1774. A Mary CHISAM stated in Aug 1855 that she was a widow of one of his sons & that she drew a pension as only heir of Jonathan & Margaret HARRIS. (RW Pension File R1932) See also RW Jonathan HARRIS below.

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Nancy married William Fisher on 2 Apr 1807 in Rutherford County, North Carolina. William (son of Patriot John Fisher and Elizabeth (Tubb)) was born on 18 Apr 1783 in Rutherford County, North Carolina; died in 0Mar 1831 in White County, Tennessee; was buried in John Fisher Homestead, DeKalb County, Tennessee. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Occupation: farmer

Notes:

Father of Bracket Estes was William Estes born KY, died 1815 in Smith Co., TN. Mother was Elizabeth Whitesides born VA. Brackett Estes, married (First) 1 Sep 1825, Hannah Melizza Newby born about 1805, died 14 Oct 1846 Smith Fork Creek, Dekalb Co. Brackett Estes married (Second) Mary A. Garretson. Brackett married Mary 18 May 1847 at McMinnville, Warren Co., Tennessee.

Family Members
Spouse
Mary Ann Garretson
1816–1877 (m. 1847)

Children
Photo
John C. Estes
1827–1884

Thomas Marion Estes
1828–1877

Photo
Bracket Lott Estes
1830–1908

Photo
Hannah Rosanna Estes Hayes
1837–1898

Victoria J. Estes
1848–1869

Samuel T Estes
1849–1849

Virginia Estes
1851–1869

Tennessee Estes Childress
1851–1876

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1840 DeKalb Census: 013001-2100001
"Mary A. Garrettson" is enumerated as his wife in 1850 DeKalb Census...DAH
Apparently, father & son married sisters...DAH

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Brackett married Hannah Melissa Newby on 1 Sep 1825 in (Tennessee). Hannah was born in ~1805 in Tennessee; died on 14 Oct 1846 in DeKalb County, Tennessee. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Brackett married Mary Ann Garretson on 18 May 1847 in McMinnville, Warren County, Tennessee. Mary (daughter of William M. Garretson and Nancy Ross) was born in 1815-1816 in Commonwealth of Virginia; died in 1877. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Notes for CLAIRBORN CHISUM:
Claiborne, m. lst unknown, maybe Nancy; 2nd Lucinda Armstrong Chisum (cousin) 1822, 3rd Mrs. Cynthia Ann Henderson Latimer

The Mallary book list only 2 marriages. Claiborne would have been about 33 years old in 1820 when he married Lucinda, age 16. The Casey book confirms that there were two daughters who died while quite small.

Claiborne and his father, James, came to western Tennessee as surveyors of the new lands purchased from the Chickasaw Indians by the Federal government.

They often received land in payment for their services, i.e. James McIver of North Carolina signed over 1,280 acres north west of Bolivar on the branch of the Hatchie River called Clover Creek. Here the Chisums settled by late 1829. Claiborne purchased 800 acres near his father in March of 1830. He took his family to live here. Upstream, by 1837, lived Polly and her husband John Johnson.

Skip Steely, regional writer and publisher of The Wright Press, suggested in his book, that westward expansion for the Chisums was just not desirable, but due to the large families they produced, an economically necessity . Neighbors such as the Leven Moore family had already successfully established themselves in Texas. Abner Kuykendall's move may have influenced, Steely says, especially John Johnson who was related to the Kuykendalls. To point out any one reason for the Chisums and Johnsons clearing out of Tenn. for Texas is almost impossible. They had families and did not simply pull up roots and aimlessly head west and apply their skills there. Friends, family or news articles gave them a basic direction and location in which to travel in their hunt for land and happiness...In August of 1837 they were preparing to leave Tenn. Johnson's son, James M., who was also married to a Chisum , was given power of Atty. to sell Johnson's home. Pitser Miller , a local Bolivar Atty. and friend, was given the same duties for Claiborne and T. G. Chisum.

Steely states the Chisum and Johnsons traveled to Memphis, across the Mississippi River, through Little Rock, down the Southwest Trail to Washington, Ark. and across to Jonesboro, By late November the Chisum group forded the Red River at Ragsdale's Ferry. Their load was so large that it took three days to complete the crossing.

The journey was hard on the now pregnant Lucinda Chisum and while the contingent was temporarily residing in Jonesboro area prior to moving to their new property west of where Paris now stands, she became ill.

The land Chisum had purchased from Jarman contained over eleven and one half "labors of land." About 2,085 acres. They moved onto the land in the spring of 1838, near the Latimer family southeast of Jonesboro. Not long after the family planned just where to build their new home, Lucinda died , she had given the world four sons and a daughter, all of whom would make their mark in the history books of Texas.

The following is from "The Chisholm Trail and Other Routes."

"Claiborne C. Chisum was a typical pioneer of the Texas stamp; he was ever ready to help a neighbor or defend his home and country from the red warrior. Claiborne Chisum was on that historic punitive expedition that was organized in the early months of 1841 to follow and punish the Indians for raids on Bowie and all counties to the west as far as Parker . The members of this expedition were volunteers from Arkansas, and the counties of Bowie, Red River, Lamar, Fannin and others to the west, John Chisum (Cow John) was only seventeen years old at this time, and stayed at home in Paris, TX to guard the family hearthstone. There were seventy in the expeditionary force under the command of General Tarrant, for whom Tarrant County was later named".

On this account a short sketch will be given here on the "Village Creek" fight about eight miles east of Fort Worth. There were really two fights on that day of May 22, 1841; the first was near the tracks of the Dallas-Fort Worth Interurban on Village Creek, in which the whites routed and put to fight several hundred Indians about 9:30 A.M. . The second was later in the day when the Indians had concealed themselves on the north bank of the Clear Fork of the Trinity, and waited for the whites to follow into the ambush.

This time the Indians routed the whites and killed Capt. John B. Denton in the bed of the river and wounded Capt. Henry Stout. The whites retreated, but returned about 4:40 P.M. to recover the body of Capt . Denton. They placed it across a gentle horse and transported it about six miles west, near the mouth of Fossil Creek, opposite old Birdville where they spent part of the night guarding the body of Capt . In the early hours the next morning the cavalcade began its march on the way toward Bonham in Fannin Co. After traveling until about eleven A.M., on May 23, 1841 they decided to bury the body. This was done in the southwest part of Denton Co. on Oliver Creek near Justine. A grave was excavated with tools captured from the Indians the day before. The body was wrapped in a blanket, buried by the frontiersmen and a witness tree was marked".

Claiborne is credited with the building of the court house at Paris , TX.

At some point, Epps Gibson and Claiborne Chisum brought the Bell Cousins, orphans, from East Texas to Lamar Co. so they could live with kinfolks.

The Lillie Casey books credits Cow John with being the contractor for the court !built at Paris. I think it was more likely his father Claiborne who did the work, as related in A. W. Neville's "Backward Glances".

In his story in the Paris Press of Sept. 16, 1878, Ed Gibbons tells of the building of the first brick court house in Paris. It was in the center of the square, now the plaza, a two-story building, part of the money for building it obtained for the sale of lots in the 50 acres donated for a town site by George W. Wright.

Mr. Gibbon's father, Epps Gibbons, and Claiborne Chisum, another pioneer settler, took the contract for building the house. Unfortunately there is no record of the cost, the county records for that period being destroyed or lost. The bricks were burned by Epps Gibbons who had a brick yard near his home in the northwest part of town. The Gibbons home was on what is now West Cherry Street, west of Fourteenth and the brick yard was north of Cherry between Fifteenth and Fifteenth and a Half Street.

Ed Gibbons, in the story in the Press, says the foundation was laid in 1846 and the house was completed in 1847. He naively adds that Epps Gibbons and Claiborne Chisum both had hands of their "to-wit" John S. Chisum of Cow notoriety in New Mexico, James Chisum, his brother and Ed and John C . Gibbons who are still here(1878). They all played part as common laborers and Z.M. Paul was mechanic. I presume from this that Mr. Paul was a sort of superintendent or maybe laid the brick.

The Fourth of July 1847, says Mr. Gibbons, was celebrated in this courthouse, its first use and at which was used the first piano ever brought to Paris.

After Lucinda's death Claiborne married the widow of Daniel Latimer , Sr. Claiborne's daughters, Lucinda and Nancy, filed suit against the third wife Cynthia and her son Daniel Latimer, Jr. and her children by Claiborne.

The law suit lasted about two years and by 1870 Daniel Latimer, through Sheriff's sales to pay the debts of James, Pitzer and Jefferson, gained control of most of the Chisum estate.

Vol. D,p. 516 of the probate records of Lamar Co., TX showed the estate to contain 640 acres in Lamar Co., 640 acres in Hunt Co., 1280 acres in the Prairie Farm tract of Lamar Co. and 10 acres on Aud's Creek in Lamar Co. as well as a number of slaves valued at $15,000.

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Family/Spouse: Lucinda Armstrong. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: Andrew Turner. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: Thomas Bonard Mercer. Thomas (son of Isaac Mercer and Martha Barnett) was born on 1 Dec 1818 in Currituck County, North Carolina; died on 8 Jan 1901 in Mercer, Madison County, Tennessee; was buried in Maple Springs Cemetery, Mercer, Madison County, Tennessee. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Laban married Margaret Lacey(Madison County, Tennessee). Margaret was born in 1802 in (Tennessee); died in Cherokee County, Texas. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Talitha married John Evans in (CIRCA 1829) in (Warren County, Tennessee). John (son of Abraham Evans, Sr. and Catherine Enstminger) was born on 30 Jun 1797 in Virginia; died on 13 May 1880 in Warren County, Tennessee; was buried in Evans Cemetery, Warren County, Tennessee. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Lucy married David Ramsey(Warren County, Tennessee). David (son of David Ramsey and Jane McCaslin) was born on 16 Jan 1802 in North Carolina; died on 2 May 1861 in Warren County, Tennessee; was buried in Ramsey Graveyard, Viola, Warren County, Tennessee. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Cited in "Warren County Cemetery Book 4", p. 68, as wife of William
Rutledge...DAH

Mary married John Rutledge(Warren County) Tennessee. John was born in (Tennessee); died before 1850 in Warren County, Tennessee. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Religion: Primitive Baptist Elder

Notes:

Religion:
Primitive Baptists, are also known as Hard Shell Baptists, Anti-Mission Baptists, or Old School Baptists. The adjective "Primitive" in the name has the sense of "original".

Sampson married Celia Rodgers in ~ 1828 in (Warren County, Tennessee). Celia (daughter of Levi E(lijah) Rogers, Sr. and Sarah Cope) was born on 8 Jul 1814 in Rogers Hollow, Warren County, Tennessee; died on 8 Sep 1874 in Pea Ridge, Benton County, Arkansas. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Occupation: farmer $600

Notes:

Administrator for his father's estate...DAH

Nimrod married Martha Finger in (~1840) in (Warren County, Tennessee). Martha (daughter of John Finger and Mary McCaslin) was born in 1822 in Tennessee. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Elizabeth married Thomas Bonner on 2 May 1839 in Warren County, Tennessee. Thomas (son of Redding Bonner, Sr. and Mary "Polly" Bilbrey) was born on 20 May 1815 in (Wake County, North Carolina); died on 20 Apr 1900 in Durango, Falls County, Texas; was buried in Union Cemetery, Lott, Falls County, Texas. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Birth:
or Jackson County, Tennessee

Family/Spouse: Arminda Dobbs. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: David Vertner Sevier. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: Jane Sevier. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Military: CSA Veteran

Notes:

Biography

Obadiah Chisholm was born on June 26, 1832, in Tuscumbia, Alabama, his father, Gillington, was 36 and his mother, Cynthia, was 32. He married Sarah Jane Womble on December 18, 1855. They had six children in 15 years. He died on April 20, 1895, in Fayetteville, Washington County, Arkansas,, at the age of 63.

Children

Orrie Anna Chisholm 1856–
Arthur Campbell Chisholm 1858–1924
John Gillington Chisholm 1861–1934
James Charles Chisholm 1863–
William Edward Chisholm 1868–
Mary Jane Chisholm 1871–
Obadiah Chisam in the 1850 United States Federal Census

Name: Obadiah Chisam (Obadiah Chisum] [Obadiah Chisholm] Age: 18 Birth Year: abt 1832 Birthplace: Alabama Home in 1850: District 6, Franklin, Alabama, USA Gender: Male Family Number: 745

Household Members:
Name Age
Gillington Chisam 54
Cintha Chisam 50
Elizabeth Chisam 16
William Chisam 21
Obadiah Chisam 18
Mary Chisam 14
Edmond Chisam 12
Obediah Chisum in the 1860 United States Federal Census

Name: Obediah Chisum Age: 28 Birth Year: abt 1832 Gender: Male Birth Place: Alabama Home in 1860: Western Division, Franklin, Alabama Post Office: Frankfort Family Number: 49 Value of real estate: View image

Household Members:
Name Age
Obediah Chisum 28
Jane Chisum 22
Aura Chisum 4
Arthur Chisum 2
Obedeih Chesholm in the 1870 United States Federal Census

Name: Obedeih Chesholm [Obediah Chisholm] Age in 1870: 37 Birth Year: abt 1833 Birthplace: Alabama Home in 1870: Township 3 Range 9, Lawrence, Alabama Race: White Gender: Male Post Office: Courtland Value of real estate: View image

Household Members:
Name Age
Obedeih Chesholm 37
Sarah J Chesholm 34
Ireanna Chesholm 13
Arthur C Chesholm 11
John Chesholm 9
James C Chesholm 7
Willie E Chesholm 2
Obadiah Chism in the 1880 United States Federal Census

Name: Obadiah Chism Age: 48 Birth Year: abt 1832 Birthplace: Alabama Home in 1880: Beat 1, Lafayette, Mississippi Race: White Gender: Male Relation to Head of House: Self (Head) Marital Status: Married Spouse's Name: Sarah J. Chism Father's Birthplace: Kentucky Mother's Birthplace: Tennessee Neighbors: View others on page Occupation: Carpenter

Household Members:
Name Age
Obadiah Chism 48
Sarah J. Chism 42
Orrice Chism 22
Arthur C. Chism 21
John G. Chism 19
James C. Chism 17
Willie E. Chism 12
Military

Obediah Chisholm in the Alabama, Civil War Soldiers, 1860-1865

Name: Obediah Chisholm
Military Branch: Cavalry
Regiment or Unit: 11th Alabama Regiment
Company Unit: H
Enlistment Info: Private
Pension Received?: Yes
Remarks: Pension application filed by Sarah J. Chisholm, widow, witnessed by P.N.G. Rand and David W. Hicks.
Author: Pension record card Marengo County; Alabama pension number 28539.

Obadiah Chisholm in the Alabama, Civil War Soldiers, 1860-1865

Name: Obadiah Chisholm
Remarks: Exempt from military service as Member Court of County :Commissioners, Franklin County.
Author: Governor's correspondence 18
O Chisholm in the U.S., Civil War Prisoner of War Records, 1861-1865

Name: O Chisholm
Side: Confederate
Roll: M598_124
Roll Title: Selected Records of the War Department Relating to :Confederate Prisoners of War, 1861-1865
Obediah Chisholm in the Alabama, Texas and Virginia, Confederate Pensions, 1884-1958

NAME: Obediah Chisholm
APPLICATION DATE: 20 Mar 1908
APPLICATION PLACE: Marengo
SPOUSE: Sarah J Chilsolm
DEATH DATE: 20 Apr 1895
PENSION FILE NUMBER: 19475
APPLICATION TYPE: Widow
Died

Obadiah Chisholm in the U.S., Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current

Name: Obadiah Chisholm
Death Date: 20 Apr 1895
Cemetery: Evergreen Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Fayetteville, Washington County, Arkansas, USA
Has Bio?: N
URL: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-..
Will

Obadiah Chesholm in the Arkansas, Wills and Probate Records, 1818-1998

Name: Obadiah Chesholm
Probate Date: 6 Apr 1895
Probate Place: Washington, Arkansas, USA
Inferred Death Year: Abt 1895
Inferred Death Place: Arkansas, USA
Item Description: Will records, vol C-E, 1889-1915
Sources

Source Citation
Year: 1850; Census Place: District 6, Franklin, Alabama; Roll: M432_5; Page: 224A; Image: 643 Source Information Ancestry.com. 1850 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2009. Images reproduced by FamilySearch. http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=8054&h=18359277&ssrc=pt&tid=7818728&pid=433415522&usePUB=true

Source Citation
Year: 1860; Census Place: Western Division, Franklin, Alabama; Roll: M653_10; Page: 675; Image: 137; Family History Library Film: 803010 http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=7667&h=7307698&ssrc=pt&tid=7818728&pid=433415522&usePUB=true

Source Citation
Year: 1870; Census Place: Township 3 Range 9, Lawrence, Alabama; Roll: M593_22; Page: 162A; Image: 327; Family History Library Film: 545521 http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=7163&h=12761993&ssrc=pt&tid=7818728&pid=433415522&usePUB=true

Source Citation
Year: 1880; Census Place: Beat 1, Lafayette, Mississippi; Roll: 652; Family History Film: 1254652; Page: 226A; Enumeration District: 076; Image: 0455 http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&db=1880usfedcen&h=8600584&tid=7818728&pid=433415522&usePUB=true&rhSource=7163

Source Information
Ancestry.com. Alabama, Civil War Soldiers, 1860-1865 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2015. Original data: Civil War Soldiers. Alabama Department of Archives and History, Montgomery, Alabama. http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&db=alcivilwarsoldiers&gss=angs-d&new=1&rank=1&msT=1&gsfn=Obediah+&gsfn_x=0&gsln=Chisholm&gsln_x=0&MSAV=1&msbdy=1832&cp=0&catbucket=rstp&uidh=ikq&pcat=39&fh=0&h=197047&recoff=5+6&ml_rpos=1

Source Information
Ancestry.com. Alabama, Civil War Soldiers, 1860-1865 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2015. Original data: Civil War Soldiers. Alabama Department of Archives and History, Montgomery, Alabama.http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&db=alcivilwarsoldiers&gss=angs-d&new=1&rank=1&msT=1&gsfn=Obediah+&gsfn_x=0&gsln=Chisholm&gsln_x=0&MSAV=1&msbdy=1832&cp=0&catbucket=rstp&uidh=ikq&pcat=39&fh=2&h=197034&recoff=5+6&ml_rpos=3

Source Information
Ancestry.com. U.S., Civil War Prisoner of War Records, 1861-1865 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2007. http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&db=civilwarpow&gss=angs-d&new=1&rank=1&msT=1&gsfn=Obediah+&gsfn_x=0&gsln=Chisholm&gsln_x=0&MSAV=1&msbdy=1832&cp=0&catbucket=rstp&uidh=ikq&pcat=39&fh=0&h=835891&recoff=4+5&ml_rpos=1

Source Citation
Alabama Department of Archives and History; Montgomery, Alabama; Confederate Pension Applications, 1880-1940; Collection #: Microfilm in the Research Room; Roll Description: Childre, Wade H. - Clark, Henry http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=TexasConfederatePensions&h=2410131&ti=0&indiv=try&gss=pt&ssrc=pt_t7818728_p433415522_kpidz0q3d433415522z0q26pgz0q3d32768z0q26pgplz0q3dpid

Source Information
Ancestry.com. U.S., Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2012. http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&db=FindAGraveUS&h=88469242&tid=7818728&pid=433415522&usePUB=true&rhSource=8638 also linked to https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=21596714&ref=acom

Source Citation
Probate records; Author: Arkansas. Probate Court (Washington County); Probate Place: Washington, Arkansas Source Information Ancestry.com. Arkansas, Wills and Probate Records, 1818-1998 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2015. http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&db=USProbateAR&h=1872043&tid=7818728&pid=433415522&usePUB=true&rhSource=8054

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Family/Spouse: Jane Womble. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: Brice Hamilton. Brice was born in 0___ 1834. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: Nathan Fuqua. Nathan was born in 1836. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: Mary Ann Hall. Mary was born in 0___ 1845. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: Cynthia L. Hash. Cynthia (daughter of William Wesley Hash and Elizabeth Baldwin) was born in 1810 in (Rock Island) Warren County, Tennessee; died before 1870. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Overton married Celia Jane Hash in 0___ 1832 in White County, Tennessee. Celia (daughter of William Wesley Hash and Elizabeth Baldwin) was born on 10 Oct 1814 in Rock Island, Warren County, Tennessee; died on 25 Jul 1895 in Walling, White County, Tennessee; was buried in Chisam Cemetery, White County, Tennessee. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Occupation: farming

Notes:

I have read someplace that the John and Matilda Hash were living in Missouri when John was killed. The two sons revenged his death and fled to Texas. It has been said that they went to work for John Simpson Chisum, an Uncle, I think. Never heard anything more about the brothers.

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gggrandparents-John H.Chisam, Jr. and Matilda (Hash)Chisam.

They had nine childern, William, Amamda, John ChisamIII, Caroline, Preston, Nancy, Timothy, Clem, & (?). My ggrandfather was Clem.

Looking for info about the rest of the family. Clem Chisam left the family after he and his brother Timothy killed some men who had killed their father(John Chisam,Jr). They went to Texas and apparently dissapeared from the rest of the family, or at least Clem did.Clem settled down and married Elizabeth Ann Rice in 1876 in Denton Co. Texas.

My mother is in her late 70's and wanted me to find her family history. This is all I have found, but would like to know more about Clem Chisam's brothers and sisters famlies. If anyone has anything about them please reply. Thanks!

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Note on John H. Chisam: A cousin has always suspected John H. Chisam was murdered by Kansas Jay Hawks (Red Legs) and referred to a book SECRET 6.

end of note

Died:
Murdered...

John married Matilda Hash(White County, Tennessee). Matilda (daughter of William Wesley Hash and Elizabeth Baldwin) was born in 0___ 1818 in (Rock Island) Warren County, Tennessee; died after 1853. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Occupation: Farmer

Family/Spouse: Mary Lodema Cotton. Mary (daughter of John McKelvey Cotton and Mary Martha Roberts) was born on 19 Sep 1830 in Warren County, Tennessee; died on 15 Jul 1888; was buried in William Chisam Cemetery, Walling, White County, Tennessee. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Melissa Fisher Moore
BIRTH 19 Feb 1808
North Carolina, USA
DEATH 6 May 1876 (aged 68)
White County, Tennessee, USA
BURIAL Unknown
MEMORIAL ID 37349078 · View Source

MEMORIAL
PHOTOS 0
FLOWERS 1
Family Members
Parents
William Fisher
1783–1831

Photo
Nancy Chisam Fisher
1790–1858

Spouse
Samuel Ottison Moore
1805–1870

Siblings
Photo
John Fisher
1811–1878

Elizabeth Fisher UpChurch
1813 – unknown

Photo
Ambrose Fisher
1823–1878

Children
Tabitha Moore Swindell
1827–1904

Nancy Moore Gleason
1830–1885

Photo
George W Moore
1840–1923

Photo
O D Moore
1844–1914

Photo
William Moore
1849–1931

Mary Frances Moore Bright
1852–1891

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Buried:
unknown...

Malissa married Samuel Ottison Moore on 26 Nov 1826 in White County, Tennessee. Samuel (son of Samuel Alexander Moore, Sr. and Nancy Mourning Denton) was born in 1805 in (White County) Tennessee; died in 0Nov 1879 in (White County) Tennessee. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

John married Narcissa Hutson(White County, Tennessee). Narcissa (daughter of Matthias E. "Matt" Hutson and Sarah Knowles) was born on 29 Oct 1816 in White County, Tennessee; died in 0Aug 1891 in Ballard County, Kentucky; was buried in Bardwell Cemetery, Bardwell, Carlisle County, Kentucky. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Occupation: farmer
• Probate: 1 Dec 1862, White County, Tennessee

William married Sarah Roberts in ~ 1836 in White County, Tennessee. Sarah (daughter of William Claude Roberts, Sr. and Sarah "Sallie" Humphreys) was born on 29 Nov 1819 in (White County) Tennessee. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

William married Mourning Fisher on 6 Oct 1859 in DeKalb County, Tennessee. Mourning (daughter of Thomas Fisher and Orpha "Orphie" Moore) was born on 29 Sep 1828 in (DeKalb County) Tennessee; died after 1905 in DeKalb County, Tennessee. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Occupation: farmer
• Military: CSA Veteran

Notes:

CSA Veteran...

James K. Fisher

Enlisted 5/21/61.
Elected 3rd Lt. at reorganization.
Promoted to 2nd Lt. On 12/23/63 at promotion of A. Fiske. Was still with regiment at surrender 4/26/65 in N.C. Paroled 5/1/65 in Greensboro N.C.
Listed as slightly wounded at Murfreesboro 12/31/62. Mentioned by Marcus Wright as being wounded at Chickamauga.
Mentioned by Darius Clark as going back to Tenn. to get recruits 9/9/62.

James married Susannah S. "Susie" Hutson on 2 Aug 1839 in White County, Tennessee. Susannah (daughter of Matthias E. "Matt" Hutson and Sarah Knowles) was born on 18 Mar 1823 in White County, Tennessee; died in 1870'S in (White County, Tennessee). [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Occupation: farmer

Notes:

Ambrose Fisher was the son of William Fisher(1783-1831)and Nancy Chisam and the grandson of John Fisher (1756-1837), a Revolutionary War soldier. He is buried in Hutson Cemetery #3 which is located in a hay field east of Old Kentucky Road (SR 136) in Walling, Tennessee.

The inscription on his hand carved tombstone reads line by line:

AMBERS FISHER WAS
BORD MRCH THE 23 1823
DEPARTED THIS
LIFE DE 20 1878
AGE 55 Y 9 M

Buried:
The inscription on his hand carved tombstone reads line by line:

AMBERS FISHER WAS
BORD MRCH THE 23 1823
DEPARTED THIS
LIFE DE 20 1878
AGE 55 Y 9 M

Ambrose married Cynthia Clark on 14 Dec 1851 in White County, Tennessee. Cynthia (daughter of Darias Clark, Sr. and Sarah Elizabeth Hutson) was born on 30 Oct 1832 in White County, Tennessee; died on 18 Sep 1918 in Smithville, DeKalb County, Tennessee; was buried in Hutson Cemetery #3, Walling, White County, Tennessee. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Occupation: farming
• Military: CSA Veteran

Notes:

Military:
Pension #11710

Buried:
Located on Horseshoe Bend. On hilltop 0.5 mile northwest of 2404 Joppa Rd, 0.2 mile north of junction of Webbs Camp Rd, 2.4 miles west of Old Kentucky Rd (SR136). From barnyard behind house, take dirt lane 0.1 mile northwest to gate, then 0.1 mile north along fend to another gate, from which cemetery can be seen 0.2 mile northwest across pasture on hill beyond sinkhole. Four wheel drive recommended.

At least 10 old graves in blackberry thicket in pasture. Broken fence. Overgrown, stones down.

Alford married Sarah Hutson on 19 Jun 1862 in White County, Tennessee. Sarah (daughter of Thomas Elliott Hutson and Permelia "Millie" Webb) was born on 18 Oct 1833 in White County, Tennessee; died on 12 Feb 1912 in White County, Tennessee; was buried in Fisher Cemetery, White County, Tennessee. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Nancy married Solomon Armistead Perry on 29 Nov 1849 in White County, Tennessee. Solomon was born in 0___ 1829 in North Carolina. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Occupation: farmer

George married Julia Ann Hutson on 23 Dec 1855 in White County, Tennessee. Julia (daughter of Thomas Elliott Hutson and Permelia "Millie" Webb) was born on 13 Dec 1837 in (White County) Tennessee; died before 1860 in White County, Tennessee. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

George married Amanda J(ane) Clark on 23 Aug 1871 in White County, Tennessee. Amanda (daughter of Darias Clark, Sr. and Sarah Elizabeth Hutson) was born on 21 Jul 1847 in (White County) Tennessee; died on 17 Sep 1927 in White County, Tennessee; was buried in Fisher Cemetery, White County, Tennessee. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Occupation: farmer

Notes:

Thomas was her second husband...Lynn.

Thomas married Jane Elizabeth Garretson on 16 Dec 1854 in Warren County, Tennessee. Jane (daughter of William M. Garretson and Nancy Ross) was born on 23 Jan 1819 in Fauquier County, Virginia; died after 1880 in Warren County, Tennessee. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Occupation: farmer
• Residence: 1870, (DeKalb County) Tennessee

Brackett married Drucilla Willis on 4 Feb 1857 in DeKalb County, Tennessee. Drucilla (daughter of John Willis and Elizabeth LNU) was born on 29 Nov 1838 in (Cannon County) Tennessee; died on 15 Jan 1872 in (DeKalb County, Tennessee); was buried in Bright Hill Cemetery, DeKalb County, Tennessee. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: Amanda "Mandy" Davis. Amanda (daughter of John Lewis Davis and Elinda "Nellie" Cantrell) was born on 5 Feb 1840 in (DeKalb County) Tennessee; died on 30 May 1912 in Smithville, DeKalb County, Tennessee; was buried in Bright Hill Cemetery, DeKalb County, Tennessee. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Virginia married George Edward Childress on 3 Oct 1867 in DeKalb County, Tennessee. George (son of Hiram Childress and Mary Lewis) was born on 30 Mar 1839 in Tennessee; died on 3 Sep 1917 in DeKalb County, Tennessee; was buried in Kennedy Cemetery, DeKalb County, Tennessee. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Tennessee married George Edward Childress on 21 Sep 1870 in DeKalb County, Tennessee. George (son of Hiram Childress and Mary Lewis) was born on 30 Mar 1839 in Tennessee; died on 3 Sep 1917 in DeKalb County, Tennessee; was buried in Kennedy Cemetery, DeKalb County, Tennessee. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

"cattle King" of the 1870's, for whom the Chisholm Trail was named...

Family/Spouse: Ralph Henderson Byrum. Ralph was born on 11 Mar 1836 in Edgecombe County, North Carolina; died on 9 Jun 1906 in Wellington, Texas. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Elijah married Eliza(Tennessee). [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Mary married Irvin Gribble in 1851 in Warren County, Tennessee. Irvin (son of Thomas Carmack Gribble and Hannah Shanks) was born on 16 Aug 1823 in Warren County, Tennessee; died on 31 Aug 1889 in Warren County, Tennessee; was buried in Webb Cemetery, Bluff Springs, Warren County, Tennessee. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Elizabeth married Thomas Gribble on 19 Feb 1852 in Warren County, Tennessee. Thomas (son of John Carmack Gribble and Susan Lucinda Roberts) was born on 30 Mar 1832 in Warren County, Tennessee; died on 17 Mar 1915 in Keytesville,Chariton Co.,MO. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Occupation: farmer

James married Drucilla Harrellson "Drusie" Byars on 7 Dec 1852 in Warren County, Tennessee. Drucilla (daughter of Nathan Byars and Nancy Hand) was born on 28 Oct 1835 in Warren County, Tennessee; died on 19 Mar 1909 in Warren County, Tennessee; was buried in Evans Cemetery, Warren County, Tennessee. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Amanda married Jeremiah J. "Jerry" Jaco on 31 Jan 1855 in Warren County, Tennessee. Jeremiah (son of Cornelius Jaco and Eliza "Lizzie" Seitz) was born on 16 Sep 1832 in (Van Buren County) Tennessee; died on 2 Jul 1900 in Warren County, Tennessee; was buried in Jaco Family Cemetery, Rock Island, Warren County, Tennessee. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Occupation: merchant

Samuel married Martha E(lizabeth) Smartt on 22 Feb 1858 in Warren County, Tennessee. Martha was born on 13 Feb 1838 in Tennessee; died on 19 Jun 1880 in Warren County, Tennessee; was buried in Liberty Cemetery, McMinnville, Warren County, Tennessee. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Elizabeth married Redding Bonner, Jr. on 11 Jun 1846 in Warren County, Tennessee. Redding (son of Redding Bonner, Sr. and Mary "Polly" Bilbrey) was born on 16 May 1820 in Warren County, Tennessee; died on 30 Nov 1899 in Warren County, Tennessee; was buried in Old Philadelphia Cemetery, Center Point, White County, Tennessee. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Occupation: carpenter

John married Sarah Holmes Dial on 2 Oct 1867 in Warren County, Tennessee. Sarah was born on 14 Oct 1842 in Union County, Kentucky. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: Nannie Stroud. Nannie (daughter of Walter Stroud and Sarah Stubblefield) was born on 7 Dec 1840 in (Warren County, Tennessee); died on 16 Jan 1924 in Warren County, Tennessee; was buried in Viola Cemetery, Warren County, Tennessee. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

23 Sep 2002: Enumerated in the 1850 Warren Co.,TN, p. 90, in her father's
household as, "Lucy CHRISTIAN"...DAH

Lucy married William Thornton Christian in EARLY 1850 in Warren County, Tennessee. William (son of William Peyton "Peyton" Christian and Sarah Neal) was born on 25 Jun 1830 in Warren County, Tennessee; died on 25 Jan 1863; was buried in Confederate Army Cemetery, Little Rock, Arkansas. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Lucy married John Archibald McLeod on 15 Apr 1866 in Warren County, Tennessee. John (son of Murdock McLeod and Barbara Matthews) was born in (Tennessee). [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Occupation: Merchant
• Military: CSA Veteran

Notes:

Moved to AR...Wes Dodson

James married Julia LNU(Washington County, Arkansas). Julia was born on 3 Mar 1844 in (Warren County) Tennessee; died on 15 Jan 1911 in Springdale, Washington County, Arkansas; was buried in Bluff Cemetery, Springdale, Washington County, Arkansas. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

The Springdale News
Springdale, AR
April 27, 1909

DODSON, Gibson – When the spirit of Uncle Gibson Dodson left its earthly home Sunday evening at 7:45 o'clock, Springdale lost one of the best men who was ever pleased to call this town his home.

Deceased had been ill for some six years with rheumatic trouble, a disease which was gradually wearing him away. Several days ago he was taken with an attack of the grip but was recovering from this and on Friday was able to be up and go to the table for his meals. A relapse of this disease came on, however, and this with this other ailment, his weak constitution could not resist.

Funeral services were held at the M.E. Church, South Monday afternoon, conducted by Rev. J.P. McDonald, pastor of the church, and the remains were interred in Bluff Cemetery.

Gibson Dodson was born in Warren County, Tennessee October 22, 1839. In Lawrence County, this state, in 1865 he was united in marriage to Mary Wasson who, together with their only children. Dr. C.G. Dodson and Mrs. Jennie Nickerson, survive him. He is also survived by a sister, Mrs. Lucy McLeod, who resides in Benton County. In 1867

Mr. Dodson removed to Benton County where he resided until 1879 when the family came to Springdale which has since been their home.

Deceased was for four years a soldier in the Southern army, being a member of Co. G., 22nd Arkansas Infantry.

For eighteen years he had been a member of the M.E. Church, South and was a member of the K. of P.

Soon after coming to Springdale Mr. Dodson engaged in the mercantile business in which he contuned until a few years ago when failing health forced him to give up active work. No man stood higher in the estimation of the people who knew him than Uncle Gibson Dodson.
From an intimate acquaintance with him, dating back to the boyhood days of the writer, we learned to admire and respect him.

During all those years we never heard him utter a profane word or speak unkindly of any one, and he was honored and esteemed as true man in all that the term implies. As a mark of respect to the deceased the business houses of the town were closed during the funeral services yesterday afternoon.

Buried:
Plot: Addition:New #1; Section:15; Plot: 7

Family/Spouse: Edw A LNU. Edw was born in 0___ 1840 in Missouri. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Mary married Redding "Little Redding" Bonner on 18 Nov 1862 in Warren County, Tennessee. Redding (son of Bilbrey Bonner and Lovey Stroud) was born on 18 Sep 1838 in (Warren County) Tennessee; died on 18 Sep 1915 in Warren County, Tennessee. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: W. W. Barbee. W. died in Benton Co.,AR; was buried in Gambell Cemetery, Benton Co.,AR. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Lived in Long Beach,CA.

Family/Spouse: Newton Edwards. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Martha married John Squires(Tennessee). John was born in (Tennessee). [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Martha married Mr. Hess(Tennessee). Mr. was born in (Tennessee). [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Margaret married James A. Edwards(Arkansas). James (son of James Edwards and unnamed spouse) was born on 3 Apr 1847; died on 9 Dec 1932 in Pineville, Arkansas; was buried in Dug Hill Cemetery, Pineville, Arkansas. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]