Lucy de Thwenge

Female 1278 - 1346  (~ 67 years)


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  • Name Lucy de Thwenge 
    Birth 0Mar 1278  Brotton, Yorkshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2, 3
    Gender Female 
    Alt Birth ~ 1290  Kilton Castle, Kilton, North Yorkshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [4
    Death 8 Jan 1346  Guisborough Priory, Yorkshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [2
    Person ID I46681  The Hennessee Family
    Last Modified 23 Feb 2017 

    Father Sir Marmaduke de Thweng, Knight, 1st Baron Thweng,   b. ~ 1250, Kilton Castle, Kilton, North Yorkshire, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 23 Apr 1323, Kilton, North Yorkshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location (Age ~ 73 years) 
    Mother Isabel de Ros,   b. ~ 1276, Helmsley Castle, Yorkshire, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 0___ 1318, Cleveland, Yorkshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location (Age ~ 42 years) 
    Marriage Y  [3, 4, 5
    Family ID F17102  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 1 Lord Nicholas de Meynell,   b. 6 Dec 1274, Whorlton, Yorkshire, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 30 May 1322 (Age 47 years) 
    _MARRIED
    _MSTAT Partners 
    Children 
     1. Sir Nicholas Meynell, II, Knight, Lord Meinill,   b. Aft 23 Aug 1301, Whorlton, Yorkshire, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Bef 20 Nov 1341, Cleveland, Yorkshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location (Age ~ 40 years)
    Family ID F17101  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 30 Apr 2023 

    Family 2 Sir William le Latimer, IV, 2nd Baron of Corby,   b. ~1276, Danby Manor, Scampston, North Yorkshire, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 27 Feb 1327, Corby, Kettering, Northamptonshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location (Age ~ 50 years) 
    Marriage Bef 20 SPR 1295  [7
    Divorce BY 22 Jul 1312  [7, 8
    Children 
     1. Sir William Latimer, V, 3rd Baron Latimer of Corby,   b. ~ 1301, Danby Manor, Scampston, North Yorkshire, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Bef 2 Nov 1335, Corby, Kettering, Northamptonshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location (Age ~ 34 years)
    Family ID F17494  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 30 Apr 2023 

    Family 3 Sir Robert de Everingham,   b. ~ 1281, Sherburn, Yorkshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Marriage Bef 29 Jan 1313  [7
    Family ID F17495  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 30 Apr 2023 

    Family 4 Sir Bartholomew de Fanacourt,   b. ~ 1279 
    Marriage Y  [7
    • Married: AFT 1316 in 3rd husband 1st wife
    Family ID F17496  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 30 Apr 2023 

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsBirth - 0Mar 1278 - Brotton, Yorkshire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsAlt Birth - ~ 1290 - Kilton Castle, Kilton, North Yorkshire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsDeath - 8 Jan 1346 - Guisborough Priory, Yorkshire, England Link to Google Earth
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  • Notes 
    • Lucy de Thwenge
      Birthdate: circa March 24, 1278
      Birthplace: Brotton, Yorkshire, , England
      Death: Died January 8, 1346 in Guisborough Priory, Yorkshire, , England
      Place of Burial: Guisborough, Yorkshire, England
      Immediate Family:
      Daughter of Marmaduke Thweng, 1st Baron Thweng and Isabel de Thweng
      Wife of William (le Latimer) the younger, 2nd Baron Latimer of Corby; Nicholas de Meynell, II and Robert de Lumley
      Mother of Joane Boys; Lord William le Latimer; Sir Nicholas de Meynell, Lord; Marmaduke de Lumley; William Lumley and 2 others
      Sister of Sir Thomas de Thweng, Knight, Forrester of Wyerdale; Katharine de Thweng; Sir William de Thweng; Sir Robert de Thweng and Margaret de Thweng
      Half sister of Walter de Fauconberg and Sir John de Fauconberge
      Managed by: Private User
      Last Updated: February 20, 2016

      About Lucy de Thwenge
      Possible birth date is b: 1279 in Kilton Castle, York

      She was mistress of Sir Nicholas de Meinell, Lord Meinell, son of Sir Nicholas de Meinell, Lord Meinell, and Christine.
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      Some say she also married Robert de Everingham and had Adam, 1st Baron Everingham:

      Robert de Everingham m. Lucia, dau. and heiress of Robert de Thwenge, a great feudal lord, temp. Edward I (the lady had been previously the wife of Sir William Latimer, and divorced) and dying in the 15th Edward I [1287], was s. by his son, Adam. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, 1883, p. 193, Everingham, Barons Everingham]

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      Lucy was 5 months pregnant when she married William Latimer (Ist Lord) in August 1294, so William Latimer, 1st baron and putative grandfather had the child declared illegitimate and induced the king to grant him the lordship and forest of Danby for life.

      The paternity of the child was likely to have been that of her cousin Marmaduke Thweng, for a year later Lucy had left Latimer and was living with Marmaduke as his mistress. Latimer obtained a divorce and married Sybil de Fourneaux, by which time Lucy had left Marmaduke and was living with Stephen Meinell and had had a son by him.

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      In 1272 Brotton, Yorks, passed to Lucy wife of Marmaduke de Thweng of Kilton Castle, and afterwards with Danby to their granddaughter Lucy. The manor was settled in 1313 on Lucy and her second husband Robert de Everingham and their issue with remainder to the right heirs of Robert. (fn. 19) After his death in 1316 without issue the manor was settled on Bartholomew de Fanacourt, her third husband, for life with remainder to Adam Lord Everingham of Laxton, brother and heir of Robert, and his son Adam. (fn. 20) Lucy died in January 1346-7 (fn. 21) and Bartholomew in 1352, (fn. 22) when the manor reverted to the younger Adam Lord Everingham.

      (VCH)

      JUST A NOTE : all the accending Tree information was gathered from the Smith-Goodale-Caldwell family tree on Ancestry.com I have attempted to copy accurately, however I may have made mistakes in transfering, so I would suggest going th that site and checking for yourself. I am only copying the info here, and have done none of the research. Any errors in research belong to the owners of the S-G-C tree.

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    • Others cite her husband as Robert de Lumley & Chevington, b. BEF 1290 in West Chevington, Morpeth, Northumberland, England

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  • Sources 
    1. [S9950] "Alice De ROS" profile, accessed November 15th, 2016 by David A. Hennessee, http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/ROS.htm#Alice D.

    2. [S9951] "Lucy de Thwenge" biography, accessed November 15th, 2016 by David A. Hennessee, https://www.geni.com/people/Lucy-de-Thw.

    3. [S9952] "Isabel de Thweng (de Ros)" biography, accessed November 15th, 2016 by David A. Hennessee, https://www.geni.com/people/I.

    4. [S9639] "Marmaduke 1st Baron de THWENG" biography, abstracted, downloaded and published Thursday, February 23rd, 2017 by David A.

    5. [S9954] "Marmaduke Thweng, 1st Baron Thweng" biography, accessed & downloaded Wednesday, November 16th, 2016 by David A. Henness.

    6. [S9646] "Lucy de THWENG" profile, abstracted, downloaded and published Thursday, February 23rd, 2017 by David A. Hennessee, info.

    7. [S9735] "Lucy de THWENG , Heir of Bozeat" biography, abstracted, downloaded and published Thursday, February 23rd, 2017 by David.

    8. [S9803] "William IV 2nd Baron le LATIMER , of Corby" biography, abstracted, downloaded and published Thursday, February 23rd, 20.