Helen de Quincy

Female 1222 - Bef 1296  (~ 74 years)


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  • Name Helen de Quincy 
    Birth ~1222  [1, 2
    Gender Female 
    Death Bef 20 Aug 1296  England Find all individuals with events at this location  [2
    Person ID I46280  The Hennessee Family
    Last Modified 27 Sep 2019 

    Father Sir Roger de Quincy, Knight, 2nd Earl of Winchester,   b. ~ 1195   d. 25 Apr 1264 (Age ~ 69 years) 
    Mother Helen of Galloway,   b. ~1208   d. 0___ 1245 (Age ~ 36 years) 
    Marriage Y  [1, 3
    Family ID F16925  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Alan la Zouche,   b. 1205, (Ashby de La Zouch, Leicester, England) Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 10 Aug 1270 (Age 65 years) 
    Marriage Y  [1, 2, 4
    Children 
     1. Sir Roger La Zouche, Lord of Ashby,   b. ~ 1242, Ashby de La Zouch, Leicester, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Bef 15 Oct 1288, Ashby Magna, Leicester, England Find all individuals with events at this location (Age ~ 46 years)
     2. Margery Mary de la Zouche,   b. ~ 1245, Clavering, Essex, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 0___ 1329, Clavering, Essex, England Find all individuals with events at this location (Age ~ 84 years)
    Family ID F16946  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 30 Apr 2023 

  • Event Map
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  • Notes 
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      Contents
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      1 Biography
      1.1 Children
      1.2 Death
      2 Research Notes
      3 Sources
      4 Acknowledgements
      4.1 Magna Carta Project
      Biography

      Ellen (Quincy) la Zouche was a member of aristocracy in the British Isles.
      Alan married Elena de Quincy [1] before 1242[2] in Winchester, Hampshire, England. Elena was the daughter and coheir of Roger de Quincy, earl of Winchester,[1] and his first wife Helen of Galloway.[3] In 1267 Alan succeeded to her share of the Qunicy estates.[1][4]

      In 1271 Ellen and her sisters, Margaret and Elizabeth, gave license for the election of William de Shaldeston as prior of the Hospital of St. James and John at Brackley, Northamptonshire. In 1277 Alexander Comyn, Earl of Buchan (husband of her sister, Elizabeth), suspended his suit against Ellen in the Scottish courts at the request of King Edward I.[2]

      Children
      According to Douglas Richardson, Alan and Ellen had the following children:[2]

      Roger, Knt.
      William, of Black Torrington, Devon
      Alan, of Fulbourn, Cambridgeshire
      Oliver, Knt.
      Margery
      These children are undocumented:

      Helene La ZOUCHE (b. 1242)
      Eudo La ZOUCHE
      Henry La ZOUCHE (b. 1248)
      Robert La ZOUCHE
      Alice La ZOUCHE
      Maud ZOUCHE (b. 1254)
      Death
      A writ regarding "Helen (Elena) la Zousche alias la Suches, la Zuche, de la Zuche, de la Suche" was sent to the sheriff of Fife on 20 August, 24 Edward I [1296], after which Inquisitons were taken in Fife, Dumfries, Ayr, Wigton, Berwick, Edinburgh Sheriffdom, Leicester and Northampton, and the juries found that Sir Alan la Suches alias la Zuche, de Zuche, Lachuche, de la Suche, la Zouche, la Zouch, son of Sir Roger de la Suche, aged 24 and more or 28, was her next heir.[5]

      Research Notes
      Ellen de Quincy was a grand-daughter of Magna Carta surety baron Saher de Quincy.

      Ellen's other grandfather, Alan of Galloway (Alan Macdonal) was one of the sixteen "Illustrious Men" listed in the preamble of Magna Carta as counselors to King John.

      Sources
      ? 1.0 1.1 1.2 Lee Sidney, ed., Dictionary of national biography, Vol. LXIII Wordsworth—Zuylestein, (London: Smith, Elder, & Co., 1900), https://archive.org/stream/dictionaryofnati63stepuoft#page/414/mode/2up pp.414-5.
      ? 2.0 2.1 2.2 Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham (Salt Lake City, Utah: the author, 2013), Vol. V, p 471-4, ZOUCHE #8.
      ? Zouche: Untitled English Nobility T-Z, Medieval Lands, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISHNOBILITYMEDIEVAL3T-Z.htm#_Toc389115910, accessed 27 September 2014.
      ? Weis “Ancestral Roots” 2008,p46, Line 38. Weis Line 38. Dunbar Lords, to Galloway Lords. Quincy, Alan LaZouche
      ? The Deputy Keeper of the Records, Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem and other Analogous Documents preserved in the Public Record Office, Vol III Edward I, (London: His Majesty's Principal Secretary of State for the Home Department, 1912), accessed October 2014, https://archive.org/stream/cu31924011387812#page/n267/mode/2up pp.223. Abstract No 363 Helen (Elena) la Zousche alias la Suches, la Zuche, de la Zuche, de la Suche.
      Magna Carta Ancestry 2011 2n ed. Vol. I p. 412-415
      ROYAL ANCESTRY by Douglas Richardson Vol. II page 222
      Royal Ancestry by Douglas Richardson Vol. V page 471
      Source list:

      Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families], 5 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham, (Salt Lake City, Utah: the author, 2013).
      Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry:A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, Royal Ancestry series, 2nd edition, 5 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham (Salt Lake City, Utah: the author, 2011).
      Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, 2nd edition, 3 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham (Salt Lake City, Utah: the author, 2011).
      See also:
      Magna Charta Sureties, 1215, by Frederick Lewis Weis, Th. D., Fourth Edition (With Additions and Corrections By Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr., M. S.; 1971
      Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, (2011), Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, Royal Ancestry series, 2nd edition, 4 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham, (Salt Lake City, Utah: the author, 2011), Vol. III, page 416 iii and Vol. I, page 412, #3 - page 416 #5.
      Marlyn Lewis.
      Yeatman, John Pym. The Early Genealogical History of the House of Arundel (Mitchell and Hughes, London, 1882) Page 67: "Helen, dau. and coheiress of Roger de Quincey, Earl of Winchester."
      Camden Society Series (London, 1916) Third Series, Vol. 27 "The Estate Book of Henry De Bray of Harleston, co. Northants, c.1289-1340", Page 141
      Acknowledgements
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      Magna Carta Project
      Magna Carta ancestry
      Ellen Quincy is a descendant of Category:Surety Barons Saher de Quincy.
      This profile was part of a badged trail approved by the Magna Carta Project in 2014 from Gateway Ancestor Anne Skipwith to de Quincy. The profile was updated Oct. 10, 2018 as part of a re-review of trails from Gateway Ancestor Eleanor Eltonhead underway by Robin Anderson. See Base Camp for more information about Magna Carta trails. ~ Anderson-35092 17:41, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
      Needs Re-review: More work needed. See the current project checklist. ~ Noland-165 17:13, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
      Needs Source Check: Citations/Sources section need work. Information from/citations to Richardson need to be verified/updated (see WikiTree's source pages for Magna Carta Ancestry and Royal Ancestry). ~ Noland-165 17:13, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
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  • Sources 
    1. [S9763] "Roger de Quincy, 2nd Earl of Winchester (c.1195 - 25 April 1264), biography, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_de_Qui.

    2. [S14618] "Euphame (Clavering) de Neville (abt. 1267 - abt. 1329)", Sources, Biography, Ancestors & Descendants. Select tab, "Ance.

    3. [S9982] "Elizabeth (Quincy) Comyn (abt. 1223 - bef. 1303)" biography, accessed & downloaded Friday, November 17th, 2016 by Davi.

    4. [S9791] "Alan la Zouche (1205-1270)" biography, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_la_Zouche_(1205%E2%80%931270), accessed from.