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 1733 - 1807 (73 years)
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| Name |
William "The Preacher" McGregor |
| Birth |
19 Jan 1733 |
Perth, Perthshire, Scotland  [1, 2] |
| Gender |
Male |
 Religion |
Baptist Preacher [3, 4] |
- In 1776, William McGregor was given a license to preach in Franklin (formerly Bute County) NC. He served as pastor of the Mouth of Uwharrie Baptist Church.
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| Death |
1804-1807 |
Montgomery County, North Carolina [2, 3] |
- in 1806 he is identified as a "Messenger" for the Mouth of Uwharrie Baptist Church, North Carolina
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| Person ID |
I27125 |
The Hennessee Family |
| Last Modified |
4 Jul 2018 |
| Family |
Sarah Flowers, b. ~1755 d. North Carolina |
| Marriage |
(Virginia) [2, 5] |
| Residence (Family) |
1776 |
North Carolina [3] |
- Bute County is a former county located in the state of North Carolina. It was formed in 1764 from the eastern part of Granville County. It was named for John Stuart, 3rd Earl of Bute, Prime Minister of Great Britain from 1762 to 1763. In 1779 Bute County was divided into Franklin County and Warren County, and ceased to exist. ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bute_County,_North_Carolina
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| Residence (Family) |
~1795 |
Montgomery County, North Carolina [3, 4] |
| Children |
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| Family ID |
F9722 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
| Last Modified |
30 Apr 2023 |
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| Notes |
- 15 Jan 2010
To: Michael Allen McGregor (tst kit # 126138)
Mike, this is in an effort to assist your quandry, and that of so many others, that have one of the many senior William McGregors as an ancestor in early America (1820 and before).
The files reveal three (3) separate William McG lines that were noted to be in early NC. It is possible, however and perhaps likely, that one or more of these three have a familial relationship. Hopefully, thru DNA testing we will begin to determine those relationships, if any exists.
I have chosen to designate these three Wm McG lines as follows: 1) "The Preacher", 2) "The Rebel" and 3) "The Warrick". Others have used the two first terms to describe their ancestor and I have selected the third term so that we have a clear distinction about whom we are speaking or writing.
THE PREACHER WILLIAM MCGREGOR
William McG, "The Preacher" is thought to have been b. @ 1735 in Scotland and is believed to have come to America "to preach in the meeting houses". Our earliest recognized record of the Preacher is with the Bute Co. NC Tax Roles for 1771. We also see mention of him in the 1774 minutes of the Kehuky Baptist Association, again in Bute Co. NC. Subsequently, he is noted on property deeds when he purchases land in Montgomery Co. NC. It is here that he is thought to have preached until his death in 1807.
We are informed that a grave marker exists in NC's Morrow State Park indicating he and his wife's death. Although we have no supporting document, one researcher indicates the wife to have been one Sarah Courtland. Another researcher, who has both observed the grave marker and taken a tracing of same, states that the years are not clear. So, the date of death for William McG the Preacher is in question.
We believe the Preacher had a son named William. This WILLIAM MC GREGOR is thought to have been b. 1755 in NC. He m. 1st Elizabeth Webb and 2nd Mary "Martha" Stiles. Wm the s/o the Preacher d. 1839 in Warren Co. TN. The children of this Wm McG are:
1) Mary Ann (McG) Stokes b. 1783 m. Robert III
2) Ezekiel McG b. 1784 m. Sarah Ware; he d. 1856
3) Willis McG b. 1784 m. Susan Ware; he d. 1861
4) Elizabeth (McG) Williams b. @ 1789
5) Sarah "Sallie" (McG) Dodson b. 1792 d. 1868
6) Martha Jane (McG) Mitchell b. 1794 d. 1872
7) Jehu McG b. 1796 m. Sallie Dodson
8) Richmond McG b. 1799 m. Mary "Polly" Myers; he d. 1858
9) Jay McG b. 1800 m. Sarah
10) Salina (McG) Shipley b. 1803 m. Raliegh
11) William McG b. 1805 m. Mary; he d. 1867
Three researchers (there are many others) descended from this McG line thru Ezekiel above are:
--Billie McG tndixiechicken@hotmail.com
--Carolyne (McG) Long crownlyon11@sbcglobal.net
--Faye Jeannette (McG) Cole mccolefam@dishmail.net
THE REBEL WILLIAM MC GREGOR
Mike, you and others, appear to descend from "The Rebel" Col. William McGregor. However, your 3 distance away on the 67 DNA markers with Robert "Bob" D. McGregor (tst kit # 29834), the brother to Carolyne (McG) Long, suggests a common ancestor exists between the two of you. That is further illustrated by Dr. Richard McGregor's "twig chart" appearing in his 2 Jan '10 posting on the MacGregor DNA Project site. See Note 1 below on last page.
This William McG, b. 1696 in Scotland (where unknown) is stated to have been "attained" in 1715 by the British, and therefore fled to America. See Note 2 on last page. Once settled in Northamption Co. NC he was given the title of Captain of a NC militia company. Upon meeting, the then Governor Gabriel Johnston, he was promoted to Colonel. See Note 3 on last page.
According to Francis Bobbit McGregor, deceased (see Note 4 below), the Rebel Col. Wm McG had two sons: William Bartlett McGregor b. 1730 and John McGregor b. 1740, both in Northampton Co. NC. This, among other information, was what Frank had graciously shared with me concerning the two sons:
WILLIAM BARTLETT MC GREGOR
This William McG b. 1730 had four (4) sons:
1) Flowers McG b. 1749
2) Richmond McG b. 1760
3) Bartlett McG b. 1770
4) William McG b. 1789
JOHN MCGREGOR
And, John McG b. 1740 and wife Mary were noted to have had eight (8) children:
1) Sarah (McG) Williams
2) Frances (McG) Sandifer
3) Thomas McG
4) William McG
5) Flowers McG
6) Jean (McG) Brown
7) Elizabeth McG
8) Cindy (McG) Sandifer
My records indicate that Bartlett McGregor b. 1770 in Northampton Co. NC and his wife Ann Harris had the children listed below. Bartlett McG d. 1840 in Stewart Co. TN.
1) Nancy S. (McG) Hogan b. 1791 d. 1855 TN
2) Harris Valentine b. 1794 m. 1st Lucy Ross and 2nd Eliza Ann Garnett
3) Arvilla Ann (McG) b. 1795 m. 1st Wm Thomas Morris and 2nd Uriah Tyson
4) John "Jack" NcG b. 1791-1800 d. in TX
5) Mary Lucinda (McG) Stone
6) Bartlett McG b. @ 1805 m. Elizabeth "Elie" Mann; he d. 1901 TX
7) Joel McG b. @ 1806 d. 1870 TX
8) Lucy (McG) Mann b. @ 1807 d. 1863
9) Noah McGregor b. 1811 TN m. 1st Sarah "Sallie" Allen and 2nd Mahalia M. Duncan; Noah d. 1885
Mike, since you appear to have a strong paper trail back to Noah McGregor, you then would be back thru Bartlett McG b. 1770 NC, William Bartlett McG b. 1730 and on to "The Rebel" Col. William McG. Below are a few researchers descended from this William McGregor:
--Christy (Herndon) Clawson (email unknown) thru Noah McG
--Joe White 55gregor@chartertn.net thru Noah McG
--Lou Gilpin (email unknown) thru Harris Valentine McG
--Melinda Conwell mindylou1118@msn.com thru Noah McG
--William Bartlett McGregor b.mcgregor@worldatt.net thru Bartlett McG
THE WARRICK WILLIAM MC GREGOR
According to the 1790 Census for Northampton Co. this William McGregor is b. before 1766. He appears in the 1767-84 Warrick Co. VA Tax Lists. Further, a deed for 287 acres purchased on Jack Swamp in Northampton Co. NC indicated this William McG to be from Warrick Co. VA.
From his will dtd in Apr 1809 and a codicil in Nov 1810 we can determine that he had a wife named Nancy in 1809, but she is not mentioned in the 1810 codicil. Their children are determined to be:
1) William McGregor b. @ 1173 VA
2) Anthony McG b. @ 1774 VA m. Lydia; he d. 1824 NC
3) An unnamed female b. 1776-84 VA m. John Little
4) Nancy (McG) b. 1785-90 m,. 1st Williams and 2nd Hill
5) Alexander McG b. 1790 NC m. 1st Elizabeth Danielly and 2nd Mary Heath; he d. 1856 GA
6) Frances Hutchins McG b. 1801-10 NC
The son Wm McG b. 1773 VA first appears in Nash Co. NC as a witness on a 1797 deed. This Wm McG is head of household with family in the 1810 and 1820 census takings for the county. About 1824 he moves his family to Lawrence Co. AL. Before leaving Nash Co. NC a son William McG is born in 1803.
Mike, Though I see no direct connection to the the Warrick William McG line, you may find that you have a distant common ancestor with Scott McGregor (tst kit # 153532) who is descended from this line. Scott and his father William Albert McGregor have both participated in the MacGregor DNA Project. I would once again refer you to Richard's "twig" Chart # 4 mentioned above. You will find Scott on a line at about 11:55pm (on the clock), whereas you are at about 12:10 and Robert "Bob" D. McG at about 12:05. You and Bob are on a separate branch of the "twig" from Scott, but you probably have a distance match in your markers.
You can contact Scott McG at mcgregor@broadcom.com to make some comparisons for a possible connection.
THE DNA MACGREGOR PROJECT
For those of you receiving this communication that are not yet a part of the DNA Surname project you may want to consider doing so. It could very well lead you thru the gap so many of us find in our paper trails. You can contact Dr. Richard McGregor at chairman@clangregor.org
My apologies for this being the length it is, but found it necessary to sort out the Wm McGs in early NC. Your response will be appreciated and I would encourage interchange by anyone that has been copied on this communication.
Larry L. McGregor
8517 E. Krail St.
Scottsdale, AZ 85250
480.483.5970
480.483.5971 FAX
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Note 1 Chart #4 is the "twig" chart mentioned an acn be viewed a www.clangregor.org/macgregor/dna.html then click on http://themacgregordnaproject.blogspot.com
Note 2 from the World Book Encyclopedia. "Attainder was a legal term for the loss of civil rights by an outlawed person or a person sentenced to death. According to old English law, such a person lost his rights to property. His land and his personal belongings were taken from him. Because he was judged to have suffered 'tainting' (corruption of blood) he could not inherit property or leave propery to anyone. Parliament put an end to attainder in England in 1870..." We can speculate that this Wm McG was involved in the first Jacobite Uprising that took place in 1715 and thereby was attained.
Note 3 According to NC Archives, Vol II, both the Governor and Wm McG had been friends while they attended St. Andrews University in Scotland. We have no indication of when Col. William McGregor died.
Note 4 Frank McGregor, a descendant of Col. Wm McG, was a prominent attorney in Hillsdale TX (outside Waco). Unfortunately, he was killed in a fire at his home resulting from a gas explosion in late 1998 or early 1999. It is not known if his genealogical materials were extinguished by the fire at his home or whether they were in an office safe at the time of the explosion. My last contact with Frank was in Oct 1998 and at that time his law firm was McGregor, McGregor & Carmichael, Inc. Hillsdale, TX tel # 254.582.7337. I believe that his daughter was a practicing attorney in the firm.
end of comment [6]
- 24 Feb 2002: Could this "William" be father of William & John, cited by Catherine Gaffin Lynn? Is a tantalizing find by Carolyne McGregor-Long because familiar names are cited, William, John, Bartlett, et. al., however, it disturbs me that
(a) the traditional naming pattern of that time has been ignored and
(b) there is no mention of Virginia as home-places...DAH
From: "Carolyne McGregor-Long"
To: "Debbie Freeman" ; "Larry L. McGregor" ; "Bill Williams" ; "Chris N' Shawna McGregor" ; "Mike Swofford" ; "Shirley Couch" ; "Wilma Hatfield"
Subject: The McGregor Bros
Date: Monday, February 18, 2002 10:12 PM
Hello Cousins!
Just a wee e-mail to let you know that I've discovered some interesting info regarding a possible connection (place) w/our ancestors, the McGregor brothers...William, Bartlett, John....possibly another brother, whose name is unknown to me.
Over a year ago, at the Bakersfield Scottish Highland Games, I visited one of the usual vendors, Tea & Sympathy, who deal in some very fine, sometimes old books. Being a book lover, I rarely pass up an opportunity to check through the racks. There was one book that took my notice, not that it was fancy or bright, just a wee worn green book w/the title of "The Road to Rannoch and The Summer Isles". I had to have it, so paid over $20 to take it home. Being I'm truly a busy & scheduled person, I've just now gotten round to reading this book. The author is T. Ratcliffe Barnett. The book was printed in Great Britain by Turnbull & Spears, Edinburgh, 1st edition July 1924. I'll send more info later when I have time to find my pages (lost my marker).
What's exciting to me is to find some place where possibly our ancestors went to school. Speaking of Rev. William McGregor...we know he came to the colonies to preach in the meeting houses, he had collateral to make the journey to the new world & to purchase property at some point after getting here. Thus, he was not exiled from Scotland by force (it would seem) & not without another shirt in his bag, so to speak. Where did he get his schooling? Was it at his mother's knee? Possibly, however, rather doubtful as in those days, girls/women normally were not schooled. This place once called Ossian's Glen...where is it today? We do know there is an Ossian's Loch, which is higher up from Rannoch...but, is still in the same locale...mix this in w/Glen Lyon, south...not an impossible idea. I've always thought Glen Lyon played a role in this somehow, having been there, it's making more sense to me. There is a kirk (church) in Fortingal in Glen Lyon....but, what I've just read in this book, makes me wonder about another possibility. A place called Dull. Whether it's there today, I'm not sure, however, where Dull was, a church was built over a burial place of Adamnan (Saint), and a school & college - said to be the first seminary of education mainland Scotland. Dull became famous as an educational center, but in the mid centuries, the school was removed to Dunkeld, and later to St. Andrews.
If any of you have time to research any of this in regards to our line of MacGregors, pls do, & keep us all posted. This is the first "clue" I've found that feels right, in a long time.
Keep searching...we'll get over the pond & documented one of these days, I'm certain of it.
Love to all,
Carolyne
end of comment
- Lineage of the McGregors of Warren County, Tennessee
The following is derived from research done by Mary Elizabeth Barnes for The Wiseman Family and Allied Lines by Eugene M Wiseman, now deceased.
Little substantiated proof of the Warren County, Tennessee McGregor lineage exists, however researcher Mary Elizabeth Barnes believes that it appears the McGregors came to Warren County from Northampton County, North Carolina. Her assumption is based primarily on the fact that several families who intermarried with our line of McGregors also left Northampton County, North Carolina area and moved to Warren County.
Mary's research, published in The Wiseman Family and Allied Lines states; There are at least three William McGregor men listed in the 1790 census of North Carolina and two in southern Virginia. The William McGregor born about 1755 of Warren County is believed to be the son of a William McGregor, Sr. who was born between 1730-1735. This William Sr. also is assumed to have a son Richmond MeGregor.
The Wiseman Family book further states; The following information has been gathered in an attempt to solve this problem of the parentage of William McGregor of Warren County, without resolution. It is presented here so that the reader may draw his own conclusion.
The Will of John Gregory Jr., Charles County, Virginia, Westover Parish, dated 1776 names wife Martha Gregory, children Richmond Gregory and John Munford Gregory and brother William Gregory. William Christian was bondsman. (Martha Stiles McGregor is thought to be the name of William McGregor's wife.)
A William and a John Gregory were Revolutionary soldiers in the 6th Virginia Regiment. Bute County, North Carolina 1771
Tax List: William McGregor, Moses Curtis, Drury and John Christian, Green Hill, John Huckaby, James Huckaby, Thomas Huckaby, John Solomon, William Solomon, James Stiles, Thomas Webb, and William Webb. (Stiles and/or Webb is thought to be the name of William
McGregor's wife.)
Bute County, North Carolina Record Book A, 25 May 1772 Will states; William Solomon to William Solomon Jr. Gift of a negro man to be his at my death. Witness, John Edwards, William McGregor and Green Hill.
In Index to the 1790 Census of Northampton County, North Carolina, shows John McGregor, William McGregor and Flowers McGregor, along with Thomas Webb. By 1796 the above were joined by Green Hill and Rowland Ware. Also the 1790 Census in Montgomery County, North Carolina, shows William McGregor, Bartlett McGregor, Thomas Huckoby and Bennett Solomon.
John McGregor's will is in Montgomery County in 1794.
A William McGregor bought land in Montgomery County in 1782 and 1779, and in Anson County in 1778, although these deeds are not necessarily all to the same William McGregor.
In 1776 William McGregor was given a license to preach in Franklin (formerly Bute County) NC. He served as pastor of the Mouth of Uwharrie Baptist Church.
On 1 July 1778 William McGregor bought the first land of record in Anson County, North Carolina, from Henry Mounger.
In 1795, land was surveyed for William McGregor in Montgomery County, North Carolina
1805 Tax List, Warren County, Tennessee shows: Ezekial McGregor, William McGregor and Willis McGregor
1805 Tax List, Davidson County, Tennessee shows: Thomas McGregor
1811 Tax List, Davidson County, Tennessee shows: Flowers McGregor
1811 Tax List, Maury County, Tennessee shows: William McGregor
1812 Tax List, Warren County, Tennessee shows: Ezekiel McGregor, William McGregor and Willis McGregor
1820 Census, Warren County, Tennessee shows:
Ezekiel McGregor with 2 males under 10, 1 male 18-26, 2 males over 45, 1 female under 10 and 1 female 16-26
William McGregor with 2 males 10-16, 1 male over 45,1 female 16-26 and 1 female over 45
Richmond McGregor with 1 male under 10, 1 male 18-26, 1 female under 10 and 1 female 16-26
1830 Census, Warren County, Tennessee shows the following families:
Jehu McGregor, William McGregor, Jr, Ezekiel McGreggor, Richmond McGregor, Ezekiel McGregor, William McGregor and Willis McGregor
1836 Tax List, Warren County, Tennessee (Dist 4) lists: Jay McGregor (Jehu), William McGregor, Sr., Ezekiel McGregor, Richmond McGregor, William McGregor, Willis McGregor (Dist 9)
1840 Census, Warren County, Tennessee shows the following families: Ezekiel McGreggor, William McGreggor, Richmond McGregger, Jay McGreggor, Ezekiel McGreger (slave schedule), William J McGreggor and Willia McGregger
Mary Elizabeth Barnes' research closes with the following statement:
"It would appear that William McGregor and Richmond McGregor, age 70-80 in the 1830 Census, both of whom lived and died in Warren County, Tennessee, might be the sons of William McGregor, Sr. who was born between 1730 and 1735.
end of comment [4]
- Will casts doubt on information
ahgenealogy (View posts)
Posted: 07 Aug 2008 10:44AM
Classification: Query
Surnames: McGregor, Flowers, Sandefur, Mitchell, Williams, Hardin (Hardan),
Need Information - Information I find that seems accepted suspect could be wrong.
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Haven been told for years now that John McGregor, of Northampton Co., NC d. c. 1794, sp. In will named Mary was Mary(Polly) Flowers d/o Ransford Flowers of same county, who d. 1789.
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And That
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William McGregor, of Northampton Co., NC, was married to a Sarah Flowers d/o Ransford Flowers and sister of Mary (Polly) Flowers above.
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Just found what is in Ransford Flowers’ will which cast great doubt on this and on most of the information on the McGregor and Sandefur information found on the web for genealogy research.
Ransford Flowers will (1788) lists living children as:
Sarah Hardan (Hardin – husband maybe a John Hardin from some land records but not certain)
Polly Mitchell (husband probably Jesse Mitchell – from land records and he witnessed Ransford Flowers will.
Ann Flowers
Ransford Flowers
Elizabeth “Betsy” Flowers
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He also mentions a grandson – William McGregor (only grandchild mentioned) – the executor of the will was John McGregor
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Have John McGregor of Northampton Co., NC will 1794 (Anson Co.) with surviving sp. Mary
Children listed in will:
Sarah Williams
Francis Sandefur (John Sandefur)
Cynthia (Centhey) Sandefur (Robert Sandefur)
Flowers McGregor
William McGregor
Elizabeth McGregor
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(Order of children how they are listed in will am not sure of birth order)
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These 2 wills are only 6 years apart. Ransford Flowers’ daughter Polly (assume this is Mary) in 1788 is married to a Mitchell – so very doubtful if she is the Mary sp of John McGregor found 6 years later in Johns will with 6 children 3 with married names.
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Who is John McGregor’s wife Mary – is she a Flowers and if so who are her parents?
Who is William McGregor grandson of Ransford Flowers mentioned in his will – it appears he was his only McGregor grandchild maybe of a daughter who was dead by 1788…
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John McGregor’s will of 1794 also mentions a brother – William McGregor.
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Have a will of a William McGregor of Northampton Co., NC – written 1809 and proved 1810 (again in Anson Co. with sp. Nancy.
Children listed:
Anthony, William, Alexander, Nancy Williams and Frances McGregor
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Who is this William McGregor – he left property in his will which is called Jack Swamp. John McGregor (Megreger) (sp. Elizabeth according to deed) transferred property called Jack Swamp to William McGregor (Megreger) of Warwick Co., VA This was a 287 acre parcel which John McGregor (Megreger) had purchased from John Justice – is this the same piece of property and then was is the relationship of these men. William McGregor of Warwick Co., VA I have been told went to Warren Co., TN – or is he the William with a will stating he was of Northampton Co., NC?
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Any Information to help sort this out with documentation would be appreciated. It seems that people put whatever they find on the web without noting that much is speculation and then if becomes urban legend and it will be very hard for people to know that there genealogy is accurate. This is not a good thing for those who love genealogy and are searching for truth. And then you have the nuts out there who are so excited that their DNA have shown them to trace back to Adam – please understand just what DNA can and cannot show. There is a McGregor genealogy on the web which is cited for source information and they have all sort of McGregor families mixed up and are a complete mess.
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Thanks for any help and for listening to my soap box chat.
AmyAnn
Re: Will casts doubt on information
Jerrilyn French (View posts)
Posted: 07 Nov 2008 08:33PM
Classification: Query
I have info on Hardan of Washington State...mostly, if you are interested. Jerrilyn
Re: Will casts doubt on information
ahgenealogy (View posts)
Posted: 05 Jan 2009 03:06PM
Classification: Query
would this be the John Harden who was the son-in-law of Ransford Flowers? Thanks
Re: Will casts doubt on information
Jerrilyn French (View posts)
Posted: 06 Jan 2009 11:28AM
Classification: Query
Sorry he is not the son-in-law of Ransford Flowers. Jerrilyn
Re: Will casts doubt on information
laurastrees (View posts)
Posted: 15 Jul 2009 05:02PM
Classification: Query
Surnames: McGregor, Crick, Hunt, Moseley
The William McGregor you mention as having left a portion of land called Jack Swamp is known as "The Preacher". He was licensed to preach in the American colonies in 1776. A hand written statement in the Sandy Creek Baptist Church records (Franklin County, N.C.) reads as follows: "At a meeting in conference Sandy Creek meeting house of June 1776, ordered that William McGregor have liberty to exercise his right in preaching the Gospel of Christ." At least from this time until his death, he was the pastor of the Mouth of the Uwharrie Baptist Church. He may have also pastored a the Fishing Creek Baptist Church in Bute Co., NC. Some of his descendents headed to GA.
It is believed, but not confirmed, that the McGregor family that settled for a time in TN were descendents of one William McGregor who d aft. 1786, known as William "The Rebel". Ironically, he seems to be the one who served as a Justice of the Peace until his resignation was accepted by the House of Commons of the North Carolina Legislature on November 30, 1786, and endorsed by the Senate on December 1, 1786.
Re: Will casts doubt on information
rechrg (View posts)
Posted: 09 May 2010 10:28AM
Classification: Query
Surnames: McGregor
Hi AmyAnn;
I wondered if you've made any further progress on this line? I believe I descend from the Wm McG you mention, and have the following:
The senior WILLIAM MCGREGOR D. Bef 1815 NC was in Warrick Co. VA 1767-84 before moving his family to Northampton Co. NC prior to the 1790 Federal Census. A property transaction in 1767 is indicated when he buys land from a James Dancy. And, on the VA State Enumerations he appears in Warrick Co. for 1782 and 1784. There is a William McGregor in the Warwick County, VA 1782 enumeration with a family of 7 whites and 12 blacks (obviously prosperous and established).
He receives land (287 acres on Jack Swamp) in Northampton, NC, on 4 Mar 1776 deeded from John MeGreger and his wife Elizabeth (2nd wife for John?) to "Wm MeGreger, planter of Warwick Co, VA". (Deeds of Northampton, Co, NC 1774-1787). John McGregor is his neighbor on the 1790 census, and possibly his brother since John's will of 1794 mentions a brother, William. On 10 Dec 1789 he is a buyer of personal property at the estate sale of Ransford Flowers in Northampton Co. He is head of a household in that county for the 1790 census.
This Wm McG writes his will Apr 1809 with a codicil added in 1810. He dies before 15 Jan 1815 when his children agree that their brother Wm is authorized to sell property of the father; this is land on Jack Swamp. The property is sold to John Sandifer 11 Dec 1816.
In 1809, when the will is drawn, the senior Wm names his (second) wife Nancy (to be an executor with son Wm); the children named are: William, Anthony, Nancy, Alexander and Frances. An unnamed daughter (probably deceased), is one of the three oldest children thought to have been born in Warrick Co. VA. This daughter appears to have married a John Little, as a grandson Willis Little is named in an 1810 codicil to the will.
I have a close DNA match (FTDNA yDNA 35-marker, distance=2) to a claimed descendant of the John McGregor above, suggesting a common ancestor around this time. John and Wm are likely brothers or otherwise closely related. We both also a close match (FTDNA 35/67-marker, distance=1,2,3) to a large number of people with the Monroe surname, suggesting a linkage of some sort in the 1600's or 1700's, but I can't find anything in the paper trail that would otherwise link these two surnames.
Re: Will casts doubt on information
JANISF (View posts)
Posted: 20 Jun 2010 08:03PM
Classification: Query
I am trying to determine the parents of William T. McGregor (born abt 1798, married Mary "Polly" Allen - 1828) who 1st purchased land in Marengo County, AL in 1833. I believe his father might be the John McGregor (married to Nancy) who bought land there in 1824, but can't figure out which John this is. The 2 of them have ties to Wilson County, TN, which is where you will find Flowers McGregor. A Willis McGregor purchased land in Marengo County in 1825, but I believe that he is one of the Warren County, TN bunch. Lastly, who are the parents of Lucy Jane McGregor who marries Joseph Vaughn in Sumter County, AL in 1845? I am thinking that she is either a child of William T. McGregor (from a previous marriage), or his little sister.
Re: Will casts doubt on information
ahgenealogy (View posts)
Posted: 14 Nov 2010 08:53AM
Classification: Query
This is interesting... The William who left the land in Jack Swamp was a planter of Warwick Co., VA - his will is from Northampton Co. and was for 287 acres on Jack Swamp in an area of a Quaker meeting house where as the Rev. William was from Montgomery Co and had taxed 500 acres - you have it documented that these two men are the same men?
William the Rebel as you call him - is he the Scot who was in NC from around the 1740's? who wouldn't sware allegence to England but worked with Gov. Johnson of NC?
Thanks for any help with this.
AmyAnn
Re: Will casts doubt on information
ahgenealogy (View posts)
Posted: 14 Nov 2010 09:04AM
Classification: Query
hi
you mentioned that John McGregor with wife Elizabeth that she was a second wife? Do you know who his first was would have been? Also do you know how old this William McGregor was when he died? You also indicate that this William McGregor's wife Nancy mentioned in his will was his second wife - do you know the name of his first wife? and who is the mother of his children listed in his will?
I am trying to sort through what I have on these lines and will try to post it here.
I am not convinced that John (wife Elizabeth) and John with widow Mary are one and the same people... But this line seems to be tied up with the Flower family and I am at a loss which William would be the grandson of Ransford Flower or by what name the mother of said grandson would have been.
The will indicates that William had a grandson of the name Little? do you know the name of his mother and father?
Has anyone ever found a will in Montgomery Co., NC for any McGregors?
Thanks
AmyAnn
Re: Will casts doubt on information
stampasmile (View posts)
Posted: 04 May 2011 08:37AM
Classification: Query
Surnames: McGregor, McGrigor, MacGregor, Monroe, Irby, Henderson
Here is some information that might be relavant to your DNA match to the Monroe surname... from the Library of Virginia chancery records, Fauquier County, Virginia. Index# 1811-038.
John McGregor vs. Admr. of Daniel Monroe (for some reason this is indexed under John McGregor vs. Admr. of Dodd Monroe). Summary of relavant information is this: that Daniel Monroe died abt. 1789 in Fauquier County, Virginia leaving no children. His wife Mary was either deceased or died soon after her husband. John McGregor who proves to be a half-brother to Daniel Monroe, is the only surviving sibling or half-sibling. Chancery case not settled until 1811. This means that John McGregor and Daniel Monroe share a mother. To me, this also implies that this particular John McGregor was probably Virginia born, since his mother married twice and had children in Virginia.
This document can be viewed online @ Library of VA.
I ran across this while researching my own McGregor, John McGregor who married Mary Ridley Irby. They had at least two daughters; Martha Ann McGregor b.1833 and Catherine McGregor. Martha Ann McGregor married into my Henderson line in Person County, NC; but they lived in Halifax County, VA. There are records of John McGregor in Halifax County as well.
Any information about how my John McGregor ties into the larger McGregor line would be greatly appreciated!!
Thanks!
Heather Rose
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